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Old 04-27-2014, 03:35 AM   #5721
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e-|--0
B-|--3
G-|--2
D-|--0
A-|--0
D-|--0

Notice that the tuning is in drop D


Dsus2
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Old 04-27-2014, 03:36 AM   #5722
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Key D
Sharps are F# and C#.
Meter is 4/4.

Scale?
G#D#A# you tell me.


Why key of D when the vamp is B?
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Old 04-27-2014, 03:55 AM   #5723
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Dsus2

I thought with Dsus2 you don't add the low D?
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Old 04-27-2014, 04:06 AM   #5724
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@ Skater: the melody strongly implies the B as a root, since measure 1 ends on it, the chromatic ascending line A, A# and B ends on it, as well as the descending line before that and the whole motif ends on it.

So B dorian/b5 it is, well done!

What I meant was that the key signature isn't accurate because it's not B minor, it's B dorian/b5, as you said. The root is definitely B, but the key is not quite B minor.
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Old 04-27-2014, 05:54 AM   #5725
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I thought with Dsus2 you don't add the low D?


No, it's in root position so normal Dsus2.
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Old 04-27-2014, 07:36 AM   #5726
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What I meant was that the key signature isn't accurate because it's not B minor, it's B dorian/b5, as you said. The root is definitely B, but the key is not quite B minor.


But scales don't define the key. The root and progression do.

If I drone a C chord during 3 measures and play over the 1s measure C major, 2nd measure C lydian and 3rd measure C mixolydian, nobody will put a F sharp before the 2nd measure (implying a different key like G major) and a B flat before the third (implying for example F major). That's very confusing.

Key =/= scale.

And

Key =/= mode
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Old 04-27-2014, 10:54 AM   #5727
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Don't exactly know where you got the add10 thing from...just E7.

And in context of A minor the C is just a III and not a bIII (but opinions differ about this)

So yeah, key of A minor: A - C- B - Dm -Eaug - E7 - Am or I - III - II - iv - V - V- i


I thought it might be add 10 because the second Ab was above the octave
What's the official way on to call it the third or flat third though?
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Old 04-27-2014, 11:16 AM   #5728
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Well, depends.

In a natural minor key the 3rd, 6th and 7th are flattened. So bIII is a bit double, because the minor key implies a b3. But in respect to a major key it's bIII.

It's not wrong. Some prefer bIII, some prefer III.
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Old 04-27-2014, 11:20 AM   #5729
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Well I know the 3rd 6th and 7th are flattened so now in retrospect I feel silly for saying bIII.
Are you self taught dehufter or did you go to school?
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Old 04-27-2014, 03:47 PM   #5730
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so now in retrospect I feel silly for saying bIII.


No need to. Like I said, it's not wrong per se. Lots of people notate it like that. My personal opinion though is that it's obvious. Personally I only do it in a major context or non-diatonic context.

For example if I play in D major: Bb - C - D, I would say: bVI - bVII - I

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Mostly self taught.
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:06 PM   #5731
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Any specific books/websites you would recommend for reading?
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Old 04-28-2014, 06:35 AM   #5732
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Any specific books/websites you would recommend for reading?


http://www.dolmetsch.com/theoryintro.htm
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Old 04-28-2014, 08:22 AM   #5733
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e|------------------------------| B|-11--12--8--10--8--5--5--5--9-| G|-12--11--9--11--7--6--6--5--9-| D|-9---9---6--8---6--5--7--7--9-| A|-10--10--7--9---7--6--7--7--7-| E|-0---0---0--0---0--0--0--0--0-|


Key, chords + progression
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