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Old 07-20-2014, 09:55 PM   #11721
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Having arrived even later to the Opeth hype train (half a year before Watershed, give or take) I still understand why older fans felt betrayed or disapointed with that album. It didn't really hit me that hard at the time, I still had hours of Opeth to properly delve into, but it was clear that it wasn't the same thing as before.

If I'm not mistaken, Mikael joined Opeth because Peter invited him, so probably the whole process was something like Mike's ideas with Lindgren's filter. With Lindgren gone, Mikael can just take a dump, glue it all together and release it (not saying thats why he made Peter go or whatever happened, just speculating a consequence of that). I say this mostly because you can still see shreds of brilliance here and there, but as a whole its pretty much crap.
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Old 07-21-2014, 12:13 AM   #11722
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No, Peter came in after Mike. Peter was still an important part, and had a distinctly fitting style for the band, though.
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Old 07-21-2014, 01:18 AM   #11723
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Lindgren gave the band a good measure of earnestness that is not there anymore. Sometimes a band is not really that band without a key player. Kind of like how Savatage aint really Savatage without Criss. No matter the band members, this drivel is not worthy of the name of the Opeth many once knew and loved.

Even if they got shittier over time, they should've gotten shitty together, Peter, Mike, and the Martins. It's good to see bands stick together through time.

Utterly WTF splits like K.K. from Judas Priest are all derived from contract gripes, I am sure. Now there's a key player who bounced after his whole career was complete.
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Old 07-21-2014, 07:15 AM   #11724
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No, Peter came in after Mike. Peter was still an important part, and had a distinctly fitting style for the band, though.


Oh, thanks for correcting me.

The same argument can still be made though, and I completly aggree with darkstar, if you're gona get shitty, do it together. Don't want to trash on Akesson but whatever he brought into Opeth, clearly wan't lacking in the first place. Same case can be made for Axe.
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Old 07-21-2014, 09:54 AM   #11725
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Old 07-21-2014, 05:39 PM   #11726
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I can certainly understand the frustration being expressed here that Opeth has changed so much, but I'm not feeling the frustration, myself. Maybe the difference is that I already considered Opeth as "Opeth 2.0" from Watershed on. Since Peter and Martin left, they really aren't the same band any more.

I have to say, I've really been enjoying Pale Communion. But then, I had practically had Heritage on repeat for two straight weeks. This round, I wasn't expecting another BWP; I was expecting another Heritage, and I got what I was anticipating.

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