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Old 03-10-2013, 05:46 AM   #1
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How do I get more creative with rhythm?

Hi! As the title says, I would really like to know how to be more creative when it comes to rhythm. So feel free to share all you're tips and secrets.
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:17 AM   #2
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Rhythms get interesting when you start accenting different beats. Like accenting an upstroke or in particular accenting the "weaker" beats (like the 2nd and 4th beat in 4/4 time). In a lot of modern metal (djent), there's an emphasis on "anticipating" the beat (ex if you're playing eighth notes such as 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and...you would stress the "and" after the 4th to kind of "anticipate" the 1st beat. Accenting different beats, and anticipating is all part of something called Syncopation. I'm sure if you go on youtube you'll find tons of stuff on it.
Another thing is polyrhythms, I'm just now getting a grasp on this and I wouldn't feel right to give you advice on that like I'm some expert but here's a video that does a simple polyrhythm and is explained pretty clearly.
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:55 AM   #3
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Listen to music that you find to have creative rhythm (whatever that entails) and figure out what they're doing.
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Old 03-10-2013, 02:54 PM   #4
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I'm no expert here, but something i find sounds cool is if you're playing a chord/power chord that's the root of the scale you're playing over top of, when the pitch of your lead notes go down, make the power chords go up and vice versa, hopefully that makes sense. For example, if you're hit an A on your lead, then go on up to an E, start with a higher A PC and then drop down to a lower E PC.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:52 PM   #5
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Rhythms get interesting when you start accenting different beats. Like accenting an upstroke or in particular accenting the "weaker" beats (like the 2nd and 4th beat in 4/4 time). In a lot of modern metal (djent), there's an emphasis on "anticipating" the beat (ex if you're playing eighth notes such as 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and...you would stress the "and" after the 4th to kind of "anticipate" the 1st beat. Accenting different beats, and anticipating is all part of something called Syncopation. I'm sure if you go on youtube you'll find tons of stuff on it.
Another thing is polyrhythms, I'm just now getting a grasp on this and I wouldn't feel right to give you advice on that like I'm some expert but here's a video that does a simple polyrhythm and is explained pretty clearly.


god that sounded terrible
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:01 AM   #6
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god that sounded terrible

it's not meant to sound awesome its meant to be a simple tutorial. Why does everything have to ****ing sound amazing when you're just trying to get a concept across? Instead of criticizing, how about you offer some advice as well instead of just dropping in to criticize then leaving without saying anything else like a typical douche?
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:21 AM   #7
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Calm down no need to get your panties in a bunch. I recommend practicing practicing exercises that actually sound musical. Happy?
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:04 AM   #8
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I would suggest listening to music that is about as far from what you usually listen to as possible. There is lots of interesting ways to chop up time as far as music goes. Step outside the box, then drag some interesting scraps back in with you. I developed a love of Balinese gamelan, for instance. Lived there and visited for a long time. Only 5 notes in scale, so rhythm big deal. Here's a random one I pulled off youtube:
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Calm down no need to get your panties in a bunch. I recommend practicing practicing exercises that actually sound musical. Happy?

Very useful information
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:29 PM   #10
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Rhythms get interesting when you start accenting different beats. Like accenting an upstroke or in particular accenting the "weaker" beats (like the 2nd and 4th beat in 4/4 time). In a lot of modern metal (djent), there's an emphasis on "anticipating" the beat (ex if you're playing eighth notes such as 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and...you would stress the "and" after the 4th to kind of "anticipate" the 1st beat. Accenting different beats, and anticipating is all part of something called Syncopation. I'm sure if you go on youtube you'll find tons of stuff on it.
Another thing is polyrhythms, I'm just now getting a grasp on this and I wouldn't feel right to give you advice on that like I'm some expert but here's a video that does a simple polyrhythm and is explained pretty clearly.


This was a bit to much theory for me. But I'm quite sure that I picked up something from it.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:30 PM   #11
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What kind of music do you play? I feel like that might shape advice differently, for I have no love of metal so speaking in djent or what have you would not interest me.

I suggest listening to funk
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:04 PM   #12
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What kind of music do you play? I feel like that might shape advice differently, for I have no love of metal so speaking in djent or what have you would not interest me.

I suggest listening to funk



Sorry to disappoint you , but I just love metal! But I'm still quite open minded when it comes to music. I would still like to avoid things as Funk or Jazz, but I would love if you could suggest me any folk music or classical pieces.
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:08 PM   #13
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Learn a bit of percussion. It will do wonders
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:11 PM   #14
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I would suggest listening to music that is about as far from what you usually listen to as possible. There is lots of interesting ways to chop up time as far as music goes. Step outside the box, then drag some interesting scraps back in with you. I developed a love of Balinese gamelan, for instance. Lived there and visited for a long time. Only 5 notes in scale, so rhythm big deal. Here's a random one I pulled off youtube:


Well I tend to like a lot of musical stuff coming from the eastern part of the world, but I would rather like if you could show me a more personal choice. Instead of just a random video. But I like the way you think!
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Learn a bit of percussion. It will do wonders


What exactly is "percussion"? My theory is quite limited when it comes to rhythm
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:56 PM   #16
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Percussion instruments like drums, xylophones, bongos, the triangle. Some are "tuned" in that they have a reference pitch, like an A or C# or whatever. Others just sound like noise, like a crash symbol.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:03 AM   #17
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Well I tend to like a lot of musical stuff coming from the eastern part of the world, but I would rather like if you could show me a more personal choice. Instead of just a random video. But I like the way you think!

I used to live in Ubud, saw that group many times, along with tons of others. I grabbed a quick one just as a sampler. If someone liked it they could go look for more. My more personal choice would be videos I shot of Balinese dance and music. I got into shooting videos of it back in 83 because most tv shows shots looked crappy to me & thought I could do better.
I have good friend over there plays this bamboo stuff too. We worked out X Files theme once for fun.
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Percussion instruments like drums, xylophones, bongos, the triangle. Some are "tuned" in that they have a reference pitch, like an A or C# or whatever. Others just sound like noise, like a crash symbol.

I really feel dumb for not figuring it out.
So I think I'll be signing up for a couple of drumming lessons.
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I used to live in Ubud, saw that group many times, along with tons of others. I grabbed a quick one just as a sampler. If someone liked it they could go look for more. My more personal choice would be videos I shot of Balinese dance and music. I got into shooting videos of it back in 83 because most tv shows shots looked crappy to me & thought I could do better.
I have good friend over there plays this bamboo stuff too. We worked out X Files theme once for fun.


This one sounds better and more interesting. Thank you and everyone else for your efforts!
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