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Old 04-21-2014, 10:46 AM   #21
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I have a Warmoth with a recessed Wilkinson and an LSR roller nut with locking tuners.

Stays in tune like a dream. Can't use it for extreme trem action, but it stays in tune better than my JP BFR, which used to have the best tuning stability for non locking trems in my book.

I think if I put an LSR on the JP, that'd be hilariously stable.
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Old 04-21-2014, 05:54 PM   #22
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I'm not sure if I overlooked this or not, but why exactly do you not want a locking nut?
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:51 AM   #23
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Any Fender style trem can be set to float. There are numerous videos on Youtube showing how to accomplish it. Pretty easy mod, I did it to my Jackson but found that the trem arm needed to be bent outwards a tad to allow dive bombs etc (will also get the router out and recess into the body to allow the trem block to move further). Most important thing to do is to get the string tension equal with the springs and keep the nut and saddles lubed to allow settling of the strings after a wham which will help it stay in tune...
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:45 PM   #24
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All G&L's American or Tribute series have Leo Fenders patent DF are floating tremolo and have no locking nut , the DF stands for dual fulcrum ..... very nice controllable trem
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:49 PM   #25
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I had a strat+ that came with locking tuners. Relatively stable tuning, but you have to wrap the strings on the post perfectly for this to work. No overlaps, and the right amount of winds to take it near the bottom of the post.
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:28 PM   #26
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I'm not sure if I overlooked this or not, but why exactly do you not want a locking nut?


I tend to hop around string gauges quite often. I just don't want the extra hassle when it comes to changing strings. That's why I'd prefer no floyd rose as you have to (with some of them) clip strings as well and use allen keys all over the place.
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Old 05-10-2014, 06:08 PM   #27
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I tend to hop around string gauges quite often. I just don't want the extra hassle when it comes to changing strings. That's why I'd prefer no floyd rose as you have to (with some of them) clip strings as well and use allen keys all over the place.


ummm... if you change string gauges then you'd have to reset up the trem for floating. this is a downside of any trem set to float. you need to retain the same string tension for it to float regardless. I have 1 of my strats set to float and it does work well as long as it doesn't bind at nut. as for pull up without rear routing you are fairly limited. of course you can bend a note up then pull on trem to more of a scream (takes a little practice but Uli Roth (Scorpions) used that method and it sounded cool.
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Old 05-10-2014, 06:50 PM   #28
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ummm... if you change string gauges then you'd have to reset up the trem for floating. this is a downside of any trem set to float. you need to retain the same string tension for it to float regardless. I have 1 of my strats set to float and it does work well as long as it doesn't bind at nut. as for pull up without rear routing you are fairly limited. of course you can bend a note up then pull on trem to more of a scream (takes a little practice but Uli Roth (Scorpions) used that method and it sounded cool.


I realise that a full bridge re-setup is needed, but the locking but is another obstacle that I'd prefer not to have. I also change tunings a lot and it'sa hassle (or so I've been told) with fine tuners. Locking tuners and a tremolno should make that a lot easier.
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:29 PM   #29
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I realise that a full bridge re-setup is needed, but the locking but is another obstacle that I'd prefer not to have. I also change tunings a lot and it'sa hassle (or so I've been told) with fine tuners. Locking tuners and a tremolno should make that a lot easier.


not really you would still have to rebalance the bridge for each tuning. I have a roller nut and locking tuners on one of my strats and that changes nothing in terms of rebalancing the bridge for any changes. as I said this is a downside to floating bridges locking or not.
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