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Old 11-03-2012, 12:39 AM   #161
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Yes it does. It counts as felony murder.

I used the wrong term earlier. It's called Felony murder, not criminal homicide. I'm dumb.

Oh yeah I forgot about felony murder. I hoped that if I forgot about it, it would stop existing altogether.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:58 AM   #162
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What if someone shoots the driver of a bus and he drives off a cliff with all the passengers. Does that count as murdering a bus load of people or just murdering one and manslaughter of all the rest?
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:09 AM   #163
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What if someone shoots the driver of a bus and he drives off a cliff with all the passengers. Does that count as murdering a bus load of people or just murdering one and manslaughter of all the rest?

As comical as this question is, I'd say probably a high degree of manslaughter.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:10 AM   #164
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Murder.

But this all depends on how good of a lawyer the guy gets.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:27 AM   #165
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So if a pregnant woman tries to kill herself and fails, should she be charged with attempted murder?

...and then sentenced to death?
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:31 AM   #166
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The first scenario is criminal homicide, which is pretty much murder. The second is first degree murder.

The problem with murder discussion is that there's a lot more to murder charges. There's a lot of factors that goes into deciding the charge and all that stuff, so that prevents it from being super easy to generalize.

The point is, though, when you kill somebody you are held responsible for it. Let's say you're robbing a gas station. You fire two shots. You miss the target, but one of the bullets goes through a wall, hitting somebody on the other side. You'd be charged with murder, even though your intention wasn't to kill that person and you had no idea he was behind that wall.

It's classified as murder because of the number of crimes you're involved in at the same time. Not because of what you're saying. Manslaughter =/= murder.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:32 AM   #167
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_murder_rule

That is what I'm saying.

I know what manslaughter is.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:32 AM   #168
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So if a pregnant woman tries to kill herself and fails, should she be charged with attempted murder?

...and then sentenced to death?

She has to be forced to live long enough to conceive the child before she dies. Forced labour.
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I wasn't really reading your asinine little discussion to be honest. Just felt the need to chime in.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:34 AM   #170
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I'm literally just stating what the law says.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:35 AM   #171
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I still want to know how the fetus has rights.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:37 AM   #172
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I'm literally just stating what the law says.

Congratulations?

If this relates back to abortion...a fetus is not a person. Legally or otherwise. Nor should a fetus be. I don't understand a logical, empirical, reasonable basis for declaring that a fetus does deserve the same rights and freedoms as a person (for example, the mother). If you believe otherwise, demonstrate so. Otherwise I really do wish Canada actually aborted people like I accidentally told a UGers wife earlier.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:04 PM   #173
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I support late-term abortions.


What about post-birth abortions?
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:26 PM   #175
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What about post-birth abortions?


i support the euthanasia of neonatals. or, the legality of it, that is.
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:27 PM   #177
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If I kill Blake does that mean he was aborted?
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:31 PM   #178
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so that the parents of a mentally or physically deformed baby can decide to euthanize it rather than let it suffer until it's death a few years later.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:06 PM   #179
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So eugenics?
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If I kill Blake does that mean he was aborted?


Please do.


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so that the parents of a mentally or physically deformed baby can decide to euthanize it rather than let it suffer until it's death a few years later.


I never realized cripples and Downs Syndrome kids were so anxious to die.
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