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Old 04-23-2015, 09:56 PM   #5821
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>>Yea, his chord reminded me of it. I was leaning towards a D chord as well since that one was the least complicated way of looking at it, but I didn't know what to call something with both kinds of 7th. I've never run into a "split 7th" before. <<


That's because there's no such thing as a "split seventh" chord.

There are split third chords, however.

This is just another term used to describe a major triad or dominant seventh chord which contains a minor third (thus creating a dominant 7th(#9) sound.)
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Old 04-23-2015, 11:18 PM   #5822
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So what do you call this then?

C E G Bb B

Nothing. It's a simultaneity and has no meaning tonally.

But if we had to, why not C (with both 7ths)?

So yes, while they technically "don't exist"...

Also, technically you could say a split third is the inverse too, some type of minor chord with a major 3rd up top. Context is everything, especially with the chords that we shouldn't even name anyway It's just clusters.

But enough of my psychobabble:

e 0
b 6
g 5
d 6
a 0
e x

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Old 04-24-2015, 05:13 AM   #5823
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e|4
B|2
G|5
D|5
A|0
E|(x)

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Old 04-24-2015, 06:50 AM   #5824
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Also, technically you could say a split third is the inverse too, some type of minor chord with a major 3rd up top.


Not without ignoring Chord Formulas 101.

A minor chord is, by definition, a chord whose third is flatted.

On the other hand, as you know, if you add a minor third to a major triad or dominant 7th chord, then the resulting harmony can be interpreted as a dominant 7(#9) sound since, in this case, b3 and #9 are enharmonic equivalents.

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Old 04-24-2015, 09:58 AM   #5825
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Right of course.

But what interests me is when the entire band is on a minor chord and I comp for it with a voicing containing a both thirds (or just the major one).

I guess we could either agree that I've single-handedly changed it to a #9 chord or that its some kind of minor #13 (gross) chord, but I don't buy it lol.

Anyway that's neither here nor there, we're just theorycrafting at this point. Chords with both thirds are cool.


Tonibet that appears to be A with both 7ths and an added 11. I'm rubbing off on you, clearly.
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Old 04-24-2015, 11:23 AM   #5826
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Tonibet that appears to be A with both 7ths and an added 11. I'm rubbing off on you, clearly.
perhaps you might be, I was considering colloquially reducing it to an A double split (no 5th) haha! your fault.
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Old 04-28-2015, 01:12 AM   #5827
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okay here goes another? (Key D minor)
e|6
B|8
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Old 04-28-2015, 01:57 AM   #5828
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Dude that's literally Eb7 it's SubV7 in D minor.

So yes, TECHNICALLY it's A(alt) but cmon.
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Old 04-28-2015, 02:40 AM   #5829
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Dude that's literally Eb7 it's SubV7 in D minor.
So yes, TECHNICALLY it's A(alt) but cmon.
When ya know... ya know! When ya don't ...you ask?
The idea actually crossed my mind whilst (slowly) working my way through your JTJ threads,
dude give's a bit of credit... cmon
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Old 05-11-2015, 05:32 PM   #5831
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oh look i found the right place

song:

2:27 (3rd/4th chord here)



the tab here says play C/B chord which sounds a bit dischordy than i would expect

http://www.azchords.com/w/wishbonea...tabs-48838.html

F G7 C C/B
There were times when I stood at death's own door

im just checking its right to play this 01023x as shown on the webpage (hover over the C/B) or if its played differently in the song?

thanks!

btw here is me playing it , you can really hear the dischord on the C/B LOL
(i know it sounds a lot better when clean i just wanna check its right)


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Old 05-12-2015, 12:00 PM   #5832
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oh look i found the right place

song:

2:27 (3rd/4th chord here)

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the tab here says play C/B chord which sounds a bit dischordy than i would expect

http://www.azchords.com/w/wishbonea...tabs-48838.html

F G7 C C/B
There were times when I stood at death's own door

im just checking its right to play this 01023x as shown on the webpage (hover over the C/B) or if its played differently in the song?

thanks!

btw here is me playing it , you can really hear the dischord on the C/B LOL
(i know it sounds a lot better when clean i just wanna check its right)

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Hello,

They're bass notes for a reason. If you wanted to be more anal about this:

Quote:
F / / F/C |G7/F / / / | C/E / / / |C / C/B /
There were times when I stood at death's own door


The bass and rhythm guitars are basically playing the B individually.
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Old 05-12-2015, 05:38 PM   #5833
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oh. but im playing both parts on my normal guitar (like in my video). it sort of sounds right to play a G there at the end (on door) as the transition chord. what would you play for that if you were me? (i currently play F , G7, C, then a ****ed up C chord but could change it to a G maybe)
thanks for your reply
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Old 05-13-2015, 05:33 PM   #5834
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It really would have helped to turn down the overdrive and tremolo. It'll also help to work on muting.

I'd play:

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e|-1---3---0------------|
B|-1---3---1---1--------|
G|-2---4---0---0--------|
D|-3---5---2---2--------|
A|-3---5---3---3-2------|
E|-1---3----------------|


or something like that.
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