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Old 08-10-2014, 11:56 PM   #5741
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Old 08-12-2014, 12:55 PM   #5742
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What would you call this chord: ACGF, F as a tension.

The context is that it's a variation of the I minor chord in a minor blues. Specifically, how would you treat the tension?

Will it be a flat 13 or just a 13…?
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:05 PM   #5743
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What would you call this chord: ACGF, F as a tension.

The context is that it's a variation of the I minor chord in a minor blues. Specifically, how would you treat the tension?

Will it be a flat 13 or just a 13…?



It would be 13.. Not b13, the minor 6th is just assumed if I'm not mistaken.

However, chances are that it will be acting as a Fadd9.

If by a variation you mean you bounce around on Am7 and the F is one of the notes play then it might just be a passing tone of sorts.

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Old 08-12-2014, 03:38 PM   #5744
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What context might it be construed to be a flat 13 in?
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Old 08-12-2014, 05:12 PM   #5745
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I could be wrong here, but my understanding is that all extensions are assumed to come from the major key unless otherwise specified. So in this case, it would be a flat 13. Also because you have the third and the seventh, it is not an added note, but rather an extension, so you would write Am7b13. Make sense?
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Yeah, that's what I wanted to confirm. Thanks!
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Old 08-16-2014, 10:21 PM   #5747
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It's impossible to know for sure without the whole progression, but I there is also a possibility the note F may actually be a #5 and not a b13.

If the F is part of an ascending melodic line, as in the "Secret Agent Man" figure its probably a #5. Otherwise, it's usually a b13.

But this is a huge debate in itself, and irrelevant to the rest of the damn thread,so I won't open the worm can further.
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