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Old 01-25-2011, 06:42 PM   #61
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There's a lot of palm muting the low string in master of puppets. I'm confused as to whether or not i'm supposed to just try and find a way to only palm mute the top string and leave my palm there until I need to play a non palm muted part on the low string. Or should I completely stop palm muting when I have to play non palm muted parts on the higher strings? Even if it's just one note and then I go back to playing palm muted notes on the low string.

I'm just asking because I want to make my technique right the first time.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:15 PM   #62
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There's a lot of palm muting the low string in master of puppets. I'm confused as to whether or not i'm supposed to just try and find a way to only palm mute the top string and leave my palm there until I need to play a non palm muted part on the low string. Or should I completely stop palm muting when I have to play non palm muted parts on the higher strings? Even if it's just one note and then I go back to playing palm muted notes on the low string.

I'm just asking because I want to make my technique right the first time.


For MoP you'll want to release the mute as a lot of the things you need to do are also on the low E string. There are other songs you can get away with just carefully muting the low E only but MoP isn't one of them.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:19 PM   #63
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For MoP you'll want to release the mute as a lot of the things you need to do are also on the low E string. There are other songs you can get away with just carefully muting the low E only but MoP isn't one of them.



I'm sorry I didn't understand any of that question....

You go back and forth between the E string. I figure everything on the E string is PMed.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:33 PM   #64
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I'm sorry I didn't understand any of that question....

You go back and forth between the E string. I figure everything on the E string is PMed.


Not really, most of what's on the low E is muted but with things like the chords in the main riff you need to release the mute on both the E and A strings. You should be able to easily tell when you need to release the mute.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:45 PM   #65
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I remember reading something along the lines of Master of Puppets is easy, it's a song every guitarist should have in their arsenal, or something.



So, is Master of Puppets considered an easy song? I'm trying it out because I've never really played anything heavy before.



That song is not considered easy, and you probably will have trouble if you are just beginning. I am an Intermediate guitarist, and it took me a few days to get it right.
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Old 01-26-2011, 04:16 AM   #66
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You have to 'bounce' your right palm up and down on the bridge to get the non-muted A-string notes. You might be able to do it some other way, but this is the way I do it.

You can see it pretty clearly on the KH youtube riffs video:

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Old 01-26-2011, 05:22 AM   #67
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Hey guys thanks for the help. I kind of realised today that you can easily jump your palm up and down and still play fast. But because earlier I hadn't really ever done serious palm muting I was thinking it might destroy my picking but it's working.

My brains still trying to grasp the part where you go 0-0-7^0-0-6^0-0-5^0-4^0-3^0-2-1 and you have to mute all the 0s but leave the rest (^ means pull off).

I didn't really appreciate this song until I started playing it but now I like it a lot.

And no this song isn't easy. Wonderwall is an example of an easy song.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:25 AM   #68
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That's not on my tab neddomac. I'm following the one with over a thousand votes saying it's 5 stars and it doesn't say you have to pulloff those.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:46 AM   #69
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That's not on my tab neddomac. I'm following the one with over a thousand votes saying it's 5 stars and it doesn't say you have to pulloff those.


Well i'm using the highest rated guitar pro version 12 and I guess they probably sound similar. I'll still copy the guitar pro one though because you KNOW it sounds correct when you can listen to it play. But yeah, muting pull-offs fast is really confusing.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:48 AM   #70
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If it was easy, everyone would be able to play it. It's just that there are alot of harder things in guitar.
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Old 05-21-2013, 04:57 PM   #71
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Hi dudes!
I am a bass player, got an e-guitar and started playing about 3 months ago. Now I'm improving MoP and I'll tell you what - it isn't a hard song to learn in terms of riffs, as those are quite easy, fun and addictive (for me). As in terms of speed and technique, at 208 bpm all downpicking, palm crazy mute bouncing! play it at least one loop flawless... LOL! I dare you! all of you badasses who claim it's easy! No alternates, no hammerons no cheating no nothing but 208bpm and downpicking. You'd need to tie your balls into a knot to do that. Even Hetfield when jamming it, looks like he's gonna deliver a baby.
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Old 05-21-2013, 05:27 PM   #72
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I am a bass player, got an e-guitar and started playing about 3 months ago. Now I'm improving MoP and I'll tell you what - it isn't a hard song to learn in terms of riffs, as those are quite easy, fun and addictive (for me). As in terms of speed and technique, at 208 bpm all downpicking, palm crazy mute bouncing! play it at least one loop flawless... LOL! I dare you! all of you badasses who claim it's easy! No alternates, no hammerons no cheating no nothing but 208bpm and downpicking. You'd need to tie your balls into a knot to do that. Even Hetfield when jamming it, looks like he's gonna deliver a baby.
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Old 05-22-2013, 06:21 AM   #73
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so? does it mean I can't write anything on it?
it still popps up on google search and I bett there are players our there (not form this wonderfull forum) who are yet curios about MoP complexity.
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:01 AM   #74
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Successful troll is successful. Anyway the difficulty of playing a song is relitive if its hard keep practicing if you feel you can't do it well try something easier. We can close the thread now.
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:36 PM   #76
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It isn't a case of what's considered hard or easy. It depends on your technique, and where it's at. , not about other people's considerations about the song, since they all have are at a different place in their own technique. For someone with a good technique, there's nothing difficult about that song, for someone who hasn't yet developed a solid technique, it's a different story. My post here will probably help, it's really the same problem:

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/foru...d.php?t=1602679


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