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Old 07-19-2013, 02:05 PM   #401
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Meh, snares never sound good in real life (see: live shows; it's almost always barely audible), so it keeps to the whole raw vibe of it.


So you clearly don't go to concerts. If your snare is barely audible you should quit drumming. Nothing raw about poorly mic'd drums.
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Old 07-19-2013, 03:30 PM   #402
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This band is probably the blandest band I've ever heard.

New album isn't too bad.
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Old 07-19-2013, 04:00 PM   #403
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Kinda want to sell my copy of TCWCU on clear with black smoke. If anyone is interested PM me.
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Old 07-19-2013, 04:18 PM   #404
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I'm pretty sure one went for over $100 on eBay not that long ago.

Also, they made up the Audiotree session:
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Old 07-19-2013, 04:25 PM   #405
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I tried watching it live. So much lag.
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Yeah, and it kept cutting out. And alien noises kept happening. This is way better, except I think Jesse way a little out of tune for the first song.
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So you clearly don't go to concerts. If your snare is barely audible you should quit drumming. Nothing raw about poorly mic'd drums.



They aren't poorly mic'd. I'm one of the better drummers I know. I've been recording/doing live music for years. Snare is the hardest to get correct without a sample. Stop talking out of your ass; it makes you look like a pompous idiot.
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You just need to hit the snare harder, bro.
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I'm not talking about myself; I know to kill the snare for sure. Other people with dynamic control? Lel. Putting the natural snare up high in the mix without having hihat bleed? Lel.

Those are the biggest issues that your basic (see: almost everyone) drummers/sound engineers have, so having a natural snare that sounds like this album is an achievement, especially at the speed he plays at.
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I bet there's some sampling in these drums. They're too consistent sounding.
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They aren't poorly mic'd. I'm one of the better drummers I know. I've been recording/doing live music for years. Snare is the hardest to get correct without a sample. Stop talking out of your ass; it makes you look like a pompous idiot.


Yeah you might be one of the better drummers you know but if you think that's a good snare sound you probably suck. Anyone can record, anyone can perform. I do both as well. For you to think your opinion is more valid based on your experience without knowing that of others is the only pompous thing in this thread. Lots of metal bands play at a high speed and get a better snare sound. Listen to Mastodon's Blood Mountain, or Cynic's Traced in Air and tell me that Counterparts couldn't have got a better snare sound on the new album.

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Almost every album out there has some sort of drum sampling. I guarantee Counterparts' new album does. It's as easy as playing a single snare hit and blending it in with the full mix.
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Yeah you might be one of the better drummers you know but if you think that's a good snare sound you probably suck. Anyone can record, anyone can perform. I do both as well. For you to think your opinion is more valid based on your experience without knowing that of others is the only pompous thing in this thread. Lots of metal bands play at a high speed and get a better snare sound. Listen to Mastodon's Blood Mountain, or Cynic's Traced in Air and tell me that Counterparts couldn't have got a better snare sound on the new album.

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For you to think that hitting a snare on 170BPM 4ths is sonically the same as 8ths at 220BPM is foolish. The metal comparison isn't good, as metal is probably the most sample dependent genre right next to radio rock. Traced In Air and Blood Mountain are no where as dense mix wise compared to your basic metalcore album, so they are hardly comparisons as well. I think it's a completely tolerable sampled sound/impressive natural sound. Let's hear what you think constitutes a good natural snare sound for a similar genre.


edit: Just saw this today....

http://drumatom.com/

lel everything I said now pointless
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Old 07-20-2013, 02:40 PM   #414
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For you to think that hitting a snare on 170BPM 4ths is sonically the same as 8ths at 220BPM is foolish. The metal comparison isn't good, as metal is probably the most sample dependent genre right next to radio rock. Traced In Air and Blood Mountain are no where as dense mix wise compared to your basic metalcore album, so they are hardly comparisons as well. I think it's a completely tolerable sampled sound/impressive natural sound. Let's hear what you think constitutes a good natural snare sound for a similar genre.


edit: Just saw this today....

http://drumatom.com/

lel everything I said now pointless


I enjoy the snare sound on MS Mirrors and that's about as similar genre-wise as possible. Botch's snare sound as well although admittedly they had a thinner mix as well. Always liked the drum sound from early Hopesfall albums too. I'm not saying the drumming's bad or anything I just wish the snare was higher in the mix and had better tone. Pretty minor complaint considering how good the album is in general.
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