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Old 10-20-2012, 12:34 PM   #1
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difference between ibanez ts-7 and ts-9, 808

i can get ibanez ts-7 pretty cheaply, is it very different from ts9 or ts8? i will use it to tighten up 6505+ combo, i play metal, metalcore (you know the chug chug stuff)
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Old 10-20-2012, 12:48 PM   #2
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The TS7 is identical to the TS9 but has a different casing that doesn't look as pretty, as well as a second mode that adds a little more gain and low-end.

The TS-808 is basically a Maxon OD-808, which is the "original" Tube Screamer (Maxon designed and manufactured the pedal for Ibanez for many, many years). Tonally there is a small difference between the TS-9 and TS-808. I'd describe it as there being slightly more midrange and less low end in the 808, and slightly less midrange and more low end in the TS-9. Unless you are really, really paying attention and A/Bing the two, I don't think anyone could reliably tell the difference, especially in a blind comparison.

Here's a video that demonstrates the difference:



Used as a clean boost, the differences between the two are negligible... some people can notice the difference, but it's nothing a miniscule EQ tweak won't change. The "throatier" sound of the 808 translates into a slightly more midrangey sound when played through a distorted tube amp.

This video shows the differences between a TS-9 and OD-808 when used as a boost. They are noticeable to my ears, but only just barely:



If you are set on a TS-808, get an OD-808 instead, as it's half the price. Better yet, get an even cheaper copy - the Bad Monkey, Green Rhino, Greenie Classic etc. are all quite affordable and do the job just as well.

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Old 10-20-2012, 12:51 PM   #3
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I've heard that the difference between a TS9 and a TS808 is two resistor values. Not sure if true though.
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Old 10-20-2012, 01:16 PM   #4
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I've heard that the difference between a TS9 and a TS808 is two resistor values. Not sure if true though.

It is two different resistors on the output that make no difference to the sound.
You will find more difference between two TS9's than between a TS9 and a TS-808. Component tolerances make no two pedals exactly the same. People compare two and determine that they sound different but comparing two of the same type can reveal the same type of differences. It's like saying, "the one with the chip in the paint sounded better so chipped paint improves the tone."
Put 5 of each on your board and then get somebody to switch through them without you watching and you won't be able to reliably pick which is which. You'd be just as accurate tossing a coin.
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Old 10-20-2012, 02:00 PM   #5
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Sorry for the hijack, I currently have a Boss OD-3 which is ok but is a better od pedal (TS9, TS808, MXR GT etc etc) even a Bad Monkey, worth the upgrade? Is it that much of a noticable difference?
I mainly use it as a boost on my high gain setting to tighten things up and add a touch more "tube growl".
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Old 10-20-2012, 02:02 PM   #6
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Sorry for the hijack, I currently have a Boss OD-3 which is ok but is a better od pedal (TS9, TS808, MXR GT etc etc) even a Bad Monkey, worth the upgrade? Is it that much of a noticable difference?
I mainly use it as a boost on my high gain setting to tighten things up and add a touch more "tube growl".

It will give your sound a slightly different character. Whether it's worth the difference or not is up to you.
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Old 10-20-2012, 02:27 PM   #7
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The OD-3 isn't good as a boost, AFAIK. What you want is an SD-1 (as far as Boss goes).
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It is two different resistors on the output that make no difference to the sound.
You will find more difference between two TS9's than between a TS9 and a TS-808. Component tolerances make no two pedals exactly the same. People compare two and determine that they sound different but comparing two of the same type can reveal the same type of differences. It's like saying, "the one with the chip in the paint sounded better so chipped paint improves the tone."
Put 5 of each on your board and then get somebody to switch through them without you watching and you won't be able to reliably pick which is which. You'd be just as accurate tossing a coin.


the best ones come with the old JRC4558's, now that is THE secret to the best tubescreamers





@Beezerk: take your OD-3 to the store and try it against a couple pedals. i have never played the OD-3, but i have played the OD-1 a few times and i thought it was a perfectly fine pedal
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the best ones come with the old JRC4558's, now that is THE secret to the best tubescreamers



Nah, has to be NOS JRC4558.
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Nah, has to be NOS JRC4558.


has to be NOS, they don't sell the JRC4558 anymore


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