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Old 08-16-2015, 02:20 AM   #6481
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How is the Big Bang a being?


How isn't it? (I realize thats bad argument and no proof, but hey, its not like it was an 'explosion'. Shit just moved out for some reason)
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Old 08-16-2015, 03:01 AM   #6482
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How isn't it? (I realize thats bad argument and no proof, but hey, its not like it was an 'explosion'. Shit just moved out for some reason)


Well, because it's an event (as we usually refer to it). I wouldn't call it a being, since it's not an entity that has some sort of power, control or experiences over things or itself. The Big Bang just happened, and I doubt it's what we refer to as a "powerful being that controls the universe" when we refer to stuff like God, spirituality, etc.

I'd like to distinguish being and entity though, since I guess stuff like what's expressed in spirituality or other religions may not be a conscious being (like a god) but rather some immaterial entity/force/whatever or something. Still, it'd be a singular thing that has power over everything (somehow).
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Old 08-16-2015, 11:19 AM   #6483
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the word "being" is not a very useful word in this context. meaning far too ambiguous
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Old 08-16-2015, 11:58 AM   #6484
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Old 08-17-2015, 10:15 AM   #6485
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Does seem rather odd to equate pure energy at an extreme state of density and heat with a "being".
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Old 08-17-2015, 12:50 PM   #6486
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Does seem rather odd to equate pure energy at an extreme state of density and heat with a "being".


Does seem odd to make an x thing that we have such low understanding of into a scientific, vacuous quality, no?

As I said earlier, Heidegger breaks down being the best, and how to avoid the nihilistic modernist thought. But here's a part from a book Im reading by Iain D. Thompson:

A footnote, but, "His point is not that being is God - the way God 'is' - without using the word being"... but instead that being is the Godhead of God I.e. "God" is only one of the names by which being shows itself, a showing that, even in the richest polytheism, does not exhaust being"


A lot more to it but you would just have to read more on Heidegger's conceptions of being
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Old 08-17-2015, 05:10 PM   #6487
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I'm not familiar with Heidegger in this issue, but...are we talking about the same thing?
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