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Old 04-17-2013, 11:08 PM   #1
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What amp should i get?!?!

Alright so i've been looking for a little while, I need a new amp, i usually play soft rock to heavy metal, i have pedals so im not really in need of an amp with a bunch of effects built in, that being said, i dont have all the money in the world, i have about 350 to spend on one, whether it be new or used, i want something with some power too, lookin for about 100w give or take, i saw the fender frontman 212r.. good for the price but people are saying its not to great for metal, i was also looking at a fender superchamp X2 with a cab but im not 100% sure because i dont really understand tubes and stuff, it says 15w tube amp with 80w cab, so i have to questions here, can someone explain to me how tube amps work and why only 15w head would work with an 80 w cab and also, what amp should i get?! please and thank you!!
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Old 04-17-2013, 11:32 PM   #2
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Home use or gigging?

What part of the world to you live in? Maybe we can find you something used.



As far as the wattage goes- you want your cab rated higher than your head so you don't blow your speakers when you are playing full tilt.

If you get a head and cab then you need a speaker cable between them- instrument cable wires are too thin and can't handle the current. This can cause damage to your amp.
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Old 04-17-2013, 11:44 PM   #3
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well as of right now i am playing at home but i want to have the option to do gigging in the future without having to go out and by another amp. i live in quebec canada
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Old 04-17-2013, 11:49 PM   #4
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http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/foru...d.php?t=1387138

In the future, use that format for making "which gear?" threads.

For that price, I would usually say an used Peavey Vypyr Tube 60. But if you have a bunch of pedals already, then maybe looking at a non-modelling amp isn't a bad idea.
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Old 04-17-2013, 11:53 PM   #5
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Also what type of metal? That would be a big help.
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:02 AM   #6
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fair enough, i have an epiphone les paul standard 100 with a dimarzio bridge pick up and as for pedals i have a digitech metal master, DOD death metal distortion, behringer Noise reducer, Ibanez soundtank Digital delay DL5, i have steves music store near me, its the best music store around, other than that i have good ol' kijiji , i found something that seems to be good but im no expert, heres a link, just put them together cuz it wont let me put a link

http://montreal. kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-musical-instruments-amps-pedals-Fender-super-champ-x2-hd-tete-15w-lampes-cabinet-annee-2011-A1-W0QQAdIdZ475691433
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:05 AM   #7
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That's no the best option for metal by a long shot...

what type of metal do you play?
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:07 AM   #8
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If you won't use the format we ask, you could at least use paragraphs. That is a wall of text and just too damn hard to read.
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:12 AM   #9
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well i'll just list most things i play : lamb of god, august burns red, a7x, bullet for my valentine, a day to remember, 5FDP, foo fighters the offspring, protest the hero, senses fail, System of a down, and some other stuff, Before i get a thousand people saying they arent metal i know!!, some are some arent, this is the kind of stuff i play usually
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:44 AM   #10
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You could find something decent used. I got a Peavey Classic 50 used for $400...been really pleased with it.

Not sure you need that many watts for just playing by yourself or small gigs. I have a 50 watt amp (hence its name) and I rarely turn it up past 5 when playing live (it goes to 12).
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:08 AM   #11
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I would look for a Marshall DSL401 used. They are 3 channel with reverb and a master volume. Clean, over drive and distortion.

You won't be doing Lamb of God on it without a boost to tighten it up and push it further. Also if you stick a patch cable in the FX loop and turn it max it gives it more gain as well.

5FDP uses marshalls if I am not mistaken.

You are limited in your price range. I am not really sure what amps go for in Canada but I picked up the last 2 DSL's for $300 USD. Normally they go for $450-500 but you can normally talk people down.
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:13 AM   #12
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I'd sell all of those pedals and get a Peavey Vypyr Tube 60 w/ a Sanpera I or II.

Otherwise sell them except the noise gate (unless you want to get a better one) all and get a Peavey 6505+ 112 & a Tubescreamer of your flavor and an EQ.

The latter option may not be feasible in your budget. The Vypyr Tube would handle everything you want to do better anyway.
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:24 AM   #13
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Yeah, I hate to say it most of those pedals aren't that great.
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:36 AM   #14
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yeah i mainly use the noise reducer and the metal master, the other ones... not so much
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:38 AM   #15
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I'd sell all of those pedals and get a Peavey Vypyr Tube 60 w/ a Sanpera I or II.

Otherwise sell them except the noise gate (unless you want to get a better one) all and get a Peavey 6505+ 112 & a Tubescreamer of your flavor and an EQ.

The latter option may not be feasible in your budget. The Vypyr Tube would handle everything you want to do better anyway.



offworld, i think you nailed it. +3.14159265359
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:22 AM   #16
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Used Bugera 333 (though it'd be for gigging; it's 120W). 3 channels, so you won't need any dirt pedals. It has a lot of gain on the 3rd channel, too. I agree with the dude saying DSL401, but if you can't talk anyone down (they normally go $400 USD or more in the states), it's a good alternative.
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:00 PM   #17
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I really really like the SuperChamp and I owned a Frontman. Neither are really good for what you are looking for. The SuperChamp can hit Foo Fighter type stuff but not the rest. The Classic 50 and maybe a Valveking will get you closer but still not all the way there.


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I'd sell all of those pedals and get a Peavey Vypyr Tube 60 w/ a Sanpera I or II.

Otherwise sell them except the noise gate (unless you want to get a better one) all and get a Peavey 6505+ 112 & a Tubescreamer of your flavor and an EQ.

The latter option may not be feasible in your budget. The Vypyr Tube would handle everything you want to do better anyway.

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Old 04-18-2013, 09:46 PM   #18
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I feel like Peavey should start paying us a promotional fee...


TS, the Tube 60 is the shit. Get it, it's awesome.
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