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Old 10-17-2013, 02:37 PM   #1
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A Bar chord

I have neglected Rock Rhythm playing for too long. I can play a lot jazz chords and most thumb over the top chords (except the most basic Major chord)

I don't tend to play a lot of Rock Rhythm mainly because I think there are a couple of really basic chords that just sound crappy. Like my A Bar Chord, the high e & b string either one buzzes or one is deadened, I just can't bend my third finger backwards enough to engage the b string while letting the high e string ring out. Guitar playing is supposed to be effortless isn't it.

I know this is really basic, but it really puts me off.



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Old 10-17-2013, 03:03 PM   #2
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it's just really a matter of practising barre chords until you get them. they're tough at the start (heck i'm still not amazing at them).

power chords and even open chords are used a lot in rock, too. if you're playing with distortion you could just use those (power chords mainly) until you get the barre thing down.
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Old 10-17-2013, 05:33 PM   #3
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I don't have a problem with bar chords in general, been playing them for 20yrs + it's just the "A" shape and the top 2 strings, playing it perfectly with no buzz (from the 3rd finger) or dead strings.

edit: maybe I should have said the "A" shape Bar Chord.



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Old 10-17-2013, 06:25 PM   #4
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ah i see what you mean. yeah that one can be tricky. you kind of have to set your finger just right not to mute the top E string. Alternatively you can only bar your first finger for that part of the chord and play the other notes with fingers 2, 3 and 4 if you can stretch enough.
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:10 PM   #5
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ah i see what you mean. yeah that one can be tricky. you kind of have to set your finger just right not to mute the top E string. Alternatively you can only bar your first finger for that part of the chord and play the other notes with fingers 2, 3 and 4 if you can stretch enough.


Yeah I think I will have to train my old arthritic finger to bend backwards.



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Old 10-18-2013, 02:21 AM   #6
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Know what you mean, I never liked the A shape barre much. I'd probably use it more if I could barre all the middle strings with finger 3 without muting high E. Doing this shape higher up and putting 3 fingers in there is just not happening. I'll usually just go E shape elsewhere as it gives access to an extra note even if it loses the easy sus2
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Old 10-18-2013, 03:43 AM   #7
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I have heard of people being able to play rock but not jazz this is first time i hear the other way arround is possible too
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Old 10-18-2013, 02:51 PM   #8
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Yeah I think I will have to train my old arthritic finger to bend backwards.


haha

the other thing you can do is just cheat and not play the high E string. i think that's what i probably do most of the time
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Old 10-18-2013, 03:16 PM   #9
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My ring finger also doesn't bend enough to play A shape barres, so I barre the D,G and B with my pinky.
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My ring finger also doesn't bend enough to play A shape barres, so I barre the D,G and B with my pinky.


Ok I can get that with the pinky some times , it is awkward and looks like it will take some work.

Does this work for you with consistency?


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Old 10-20-2013, 06:42 AM   #11
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Yes, it just takes a little practice is all. Keep at it my friend. 15 mins a day, you will have it in a week or two.
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:42 PM   #12
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dont forget..on many guitars i have played..the action and string guage could be improved .. many guitars can be improved with a proper set up...neck adjustment-lower string settings..lower or higher string guages..

to me it makes a night & day difference...
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Old 10-21-2013, 10:12 PM   #13
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I prefer restaurant chords during the day. Only bar chords after 5.
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No nonsense explanation here:
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I prefer restaurant chords during the day. Only bar chords after 5.


Your taking the piss

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Yes, it just takes a little practice is all. Keep at it my friend. 15 mins a day, you will have it in a week or two.


I stayed with using my ring finger and it's improving. When it's right it sounds heaps less sloppy as it did before.

I think your are right 10 or 15 minutes a day....


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Yeah stick with it, consistent practice is the key.
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