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Old 04-24-2013, 07:20 PM   #1
Alexander Nero
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New tube amplifier for thrash

After weeks of brainstorming and researching, i chose to buy a tube amp. I play mostly thrash metal rhythm but i need to replace my whole gear. About the guitar i will probably get this

http://www.epiphone.com/Products/De...xplorer-EX.aspx

or this

http://www.espguitars.com/guitars/l...tar/ex-360.html

So about the amp, i can spend about 500 MAX 600 euros, so i will spend 1000 euros for both guitar and amp (it's all i can afford to spend atm xD). I need something i can use in rehearsal with my group, and if this can help, i prefer a more mid-scooped sound (I already have a Boss ML-2). Thanks for the help!
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Old 04-24-2013, 07:56 PM   #2
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Peavey vypyr tube 60/120
Laney VC100
go used if you can, it will save you lots of cash
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Old 04-25-2013, 04:14 AM   #3
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If you don't need loads of watts check out the Laney Ironheart Studio:

http://www.thomann.de/gb/laney_irtstudio.htm

Its a neat little amp (rack-mountable) and had a 1 watt input so great for using at home. Plenty of gain and a good EQ.
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Old 04-25-2013, 04:43 AM   #4
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Peavey 6505+ 112
Laney IRT-30
Blackstar HT-20

Those are probably the most solid choices in that price range.
Also, ditch the ML-2 and stop scooping those mids, especially if you want to be heard in a band.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:01 PM   #5
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Peavey 6505+ 112
Laney IRT-30
Blackstar HT-20

Those are probably the most solid choices in that price range.
Also, ditch the ML-2 and stop scooping those mids, especially if you want to be heard in a band.


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6505+ is a beast!
Also yes do stop scooping the mids, it may sound pretty cool when you're playing alone but in a band situation you'll just sound like distant mud.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:04 PM   #6
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Also yes do stop scooping the mids, it may sound pretty cool when you're playing alone but in a band situation you'll just sound like distant mud.

Yeah i know! i just wanted to say that i like that sort of sound, i thought it could help! Anyway, i think i'll go for the 6505, it seems to be pretty famous xD
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:08 PM   #7
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About severe mid-scooping, leave it for playing alone and recording in studio. It sounds cool on a recoding but in a band/live situation you need mids to be heard, so if you scoop dont be extreme with it.

If you like the sound however, take a look at ENGL amps, Fireball and Powerball. Way beyond your price range at the moment but maybe in the future? They do have a voicing that resembles scooped or so I remember hearing.

*edit* Actually used Fireball 60 IS in your price range!
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:19 PM   #8
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Thanks to all for your help!!! Someone suggested me to buy a Peavey Valveking... what's the difference between the peavey 6505 and the Valveking????
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:25 PM   #9
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Thanks to all for your help!!! Someone suggested me to buy a Peavey Valveking... what's the difference between the peavey 6505 and the Valveking????



Valveking is a lower end tube amp, not 6505 caliber but similar voicing. Not as much gain and desperately needs a boost to tighten the distortion as its quite loose. The built in gain boost is a diode clipper and a not very good sounding. But with a tubescreamer as a boost, it does sound very good. Does Thrash really well. Also needs few tricks like jumping the FX Loop and using dummy jack in one of the inputs.

Still, there's too much competition in same price range that does metal better than that without boosts and tricks. In used market however you can score Valveking for next to nothing. I got mine for 230.
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Old 04-25-2013, 01:01 PM   #10
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A Peavey Windsor can be found for cheap, and if you traded your Boss for a tubescreamer clone of some kind you'd have a great boost for it.
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Old 04-25-2013, 01:02 PM   #11
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Forget about the Valveking.
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Old 04-25-2013, 01:19 PM   #12
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The Laney VC100 was mentioned, excellent choice.

If you can find a JCM2000 DSL50 combo used that would be a good one. The 6505+ is cool, but not what I would consider a "thrash" amp, still a good consideration.

Also try:

Peavey XXX/Ultra/JSX

Peavey Windsor (definitely will need a boost)

Peavey VTM60/120

Laney AOR50/100 (can be had very cheap, you could probably even afford this and a cab, also needs a boost)

Marshall JCM900 (This one can be tricky, the SL-X is the one you really want, there are also two other models that aren't as good, the Mark 3 and Dual Reverb, they probably will still be decent for you)

Blackstar HT series (I am not really a fan)


Now keep in mind some of these will need cabs, but most all the ones that do are cheap enough to accommodate. Also, of the two guitars you linked, I think the LTD will be higher quality (don't mean to but in where my opinion wasn't requested, just thought I would throw that in)
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Old 04-25-2013, 04:09 PM   #13
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assuming you can buy from thomann, they have the jet city stuff in again at killer prices. would be worth considering.
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