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Old 02-13-2013, 08:56 AM   #1
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Confused about Paul Gilbert's lick

I never figured out how to play this picking lick correctly, Im fairly sure I'd be able to pick it now but the timing throws me off.


Starting at 2:49 and then its repeated on different steps of the scale. I used to practice with the metronome as 16th notes triplets but it doesnt sound right played along the song. How should I be playing it? Is it 32nd notes or something else?

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Old 02-13-2013, 09:55 AM   #2
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Well there's two things going on here really:

1 - It's not the same pattern every time. I think the first two are the same then it changes each time.

2 - It's not in time with the rest of the song really. Firstly he doesn't launch in to each one straight at full speed and secondly if you listen to the high-hat in the background you can hear that the licks are being played relatively freely, especially the last one.

Watch a couple of live videos of it; during that section he plays the licks even more freely than he does on the recording. I think he's just vibing it for those.
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Old 02-13-2013, 12:05 PM   #3
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...xshHlp4w#t=216s

Right. 3:36. The lick consists of the parts repeated. The first two are the same, the second he reaches for a higher note.

Take a look. Visual makes things a lot easier.
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Old 02-13-2013, 12:51 PM   #4
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I think he's playing eight notes per beat, but with every position the first note always begins before the beat.
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:49 PM   #5
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Yes I understand he alternates between two different notes, what I meant to say is that its the same amount of notes in each of those licks (at least on the live version).

16th notes triplets is not "fast enough", maybe it could be eight notes per beat as said above...?

@Zaphod_Beeblebr: What do you mean its not in time with the rest of the song? I noticed the last note of each lick, where he does the slide/vibrato, is always on the beat. There has to be a pattern that he's following.
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@Zaphod_Beeblebr: What do you mean its not in time with the rest of the song? I noticed the last note of each lick, where he does the slide/vibrato, is always on the beat. There has to be a pattern that he's following.


He doesn't stick to a strict "this many notes per beat" frame. He begins and ends in the right place every time to be sure but like I said I think he's just vibing it out and hitting them as fast as he feels they need to be more than anything else. I think he speeds up slightly on each one as it goes on as well but that may just be the last one...
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Old 02-13-2013, 03:31 PM   #7
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The part of the video that you highlighted is where he plays a lick with out a drum beat. So therefor time signatures and timing is thrown out the window. I think he is just free styling during that portion.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:55 PM   #8
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As I've said before; it's eight notes per beat. I made a crude little tab for you and some of the guitar noobs up there who claim otherwise.
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:23 AM   #9
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Thanks for the help. Calling people guitar noobs however...
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