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Old 05-14-2014, 01:45 PM   #1441
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So for a beginning whiskey drinker where do I begin?

I've shot JD, Jameson and Red Breast before but I'm interested in learning to drink it properly. Truthfully I don't know much about it so I have no idea how to get started. Any help or tips would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 05-14-2014, 01:53 PM   #1442
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Start with something mild, Maker's Mark (Bourbon) or Glenmorangie 12 (Scotch), pour 2 fingers into an appropriate glass, add a small amount of spring (NOT tap) water and taste. If it's too strong on your taste buds, dilute with water to taste. While 'neat' (no water) is a popular way to drink whisky, the reality is that most of it is strong enough to numb your taste buds after only one of two sips, so what's the point?

"On the rocks" is fine IF the ice isn't made from tap (chlorinated) water and you don't go overboard and dilute the whicky too much as the ice melts. Any chlorinated water destroys the taste of whisky.

Experiment until you find what you like.

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Old 05-14-2014, 02:43 PM   #1443
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I'm really into world whiskies, but I haven't had a chance to sample the Indian stuff yet. What's the tasting note on it?


If I had to pick one word, it's balance. The malt shines, a mild peat is present, all while a hint of vanilla and caramel fill out the palate. It's been a while since I've tried it so I'm going off memory here. No one thing overpowers another, in that regard it's very similar to the Highland Park 12, which is why I brought it up.

Jim Murray rated it the 3rd best whisky in the world one year. That was pretty cool too haha
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Old 05-14-2014, 02:45 PM   #1444
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yeah my last scotch bottle was Springbank 12 and that was so boring. not a comment on the quality of it, which was great, I'm just accepting that I'll only ever be happy with Islay.

Might still get the Bruichladdich as well but knowing me I wouldn't even open it until I finish the Lagavulin and at that time I'd probably be doing another spending wave anyway.


I'm looking to review some more bourbons on my blog, would you recommend Four Roses? As far as bourbons go, my taste is pretty much in the gutter - my favourite brand is Bulleit, which is pretty entry level.

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So for a beginning whiskey drinker where do I begin?

I've shot JD, Jameson and Red Breast before but I'm interested in learning to drink it properly. Truthfully I don't know much about it so I have no idea how to get started. Any help or tips would be greatly appreciated.


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(Sorry, shameless plug I know, but check out the "how to drink", "about", and "terminology" sections on my blog)

First, decide if you want to get into Scotch or Bourbon (or irish whiskey). For scotch, I'd recommend starting with some Speyside whiskies and moving about from there - maybe go to pubs and try them in there so you don't have to buy whole bottles of something you may not necessarily like.

For bourbons and Irish Whiskies, same thing really. There are some really nice boutique bourbons like Wild Turkey or Elijah Craig which should set you on the path. As far as Irish Whiskeys go, I've only ever dipped a toe into that world, but I've heard good things about Green Spot and I like the Bushmills 16.

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If I had to pick one word, it's balance. The malt shines, a mild peat is present, all while a hint of vanilla and caramel fill out the palate. It's been a while since I've tried it so I'm going off memory here. No one thing overpowers another, in that regard it's very similar to the Highland Park 12, which is why I brought it up.

Jim Murray rated it the 3rd best whisky in the world one year. That was pretty cool too haha


Sounds interesting, from your description it sounds like it errs towards the classic bourbon taste only with peat. The problem with most of these more fringe products are that you don't usually get them in pubs, so I'd have to spring for a bottle. I have my eye on this one:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B009R1NX...=I3BG8CLA4TMKE1
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Old 05-14-2014, 03:12 PM   #1445
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tbh I'm still new to bourbons

bulleit, even though cheap, is quite decent. I've only tried four roses in a sample against elijah craig where the four roses won out for me, craig didn't have enough of that sweetness I like. I'd recommend it so far as it's a reasonably priced single barrel so looks like a nice introduction to single barrel bourbons.

for review purposes yeah try it. eagle rare seems an interesting one to look at too in that price range too, was flipping coin between eagle rare, craig and four roses. I spent quite a while reading on whiskyexchange and masterofmalt for reviews for all three. and got lucky to find a bar serving craig and roses to make my mind up.

only other 'real' bourbon i've tried is woodford reserve which is okay but nothing remarkable, too much like a scotch in flavour too (would make for a good starter bourbon for scotch drinkers maybe)
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Old 05-14-2014, 03:19 PM   #1446
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at my older brother's wedding a couple years ago i had some really aged Jack Daniels. the bottle was small as hell but he told me it was probably worth about a grand. not to mention he had it saved for six years waiting for a special occasion to open it up. i wish i could remember what it was exactly so i could google it and see.

i've never been a whiskey person (vodka's more my thing) but it was straight-up the best liquor i've had.
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Old 05-14-2014, 04:10 PM   #1447
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tbh I'm still new to bourbons

bulleit, even though cheap, is quite decent. I've only tried four roses in a sample against elijah craig where the four roses won out for me, craig didn't have enough of that sweetness I like. I'd recommend it so far as it's a reasonably priced single barrel so looks like a nice introduction to single barrel bourbons.

for review purposes yeah try it. eagle rare seems an interesting one to look at too in that price range too, was flipping coin between eagle rare, craig and four roses. I spent quite a while reading on whiskyexchange and masterofmalt for reviews for all three. and got lucky to find a bar serving craig and roses to make my mind up.

only other 'real' bourbon i've tried is woodford reserve which is okay but nothing remarkable, too much like a scotch in flavour too (would make for a good starter bourbon for scotch drinkers maybe)


Interesting, Elijah Craig and Eagle Rare were both on my list to try, but maybe I will jump to Four Roses. The bottle certainly looks nice. (judging book by its cover, blahblahblah)
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Old 05-14-2014, 04:13 PM   #1448
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I don't know if any of you have had 'cask strength' bourbons but my god they're amazing. There's one, Baker's I think it's called? (might be Bookers), it's ~125 proof. This stuff literally melts in your mouth and warms you up with delicious buttery/vanilla notes. Awesome, and highly rec'd
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Old 05-14-2014, 05:38 PM   #1449
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I'm drinking some Aberlour 10 right now.

I got a bottle of Ardbeg 10 the other week. It's been an age since I've had any, even though it's one of my favourites. Found a good offer in the supermarket so I'm pretty happy with that.

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I wanted an Islay scotch because I wanted to learn what pete and smoke tasted like and I was given the impression that Laphroaig was the most bold in that respect. If Ardberg was a bit cheaper I might have given it a try.

I was also under the impression that Lagavulin had declined in quality recently.


I'd heard that about Lagavulin too, and it's still easily my favourite whisky. If the new batches are 'bad' then the old ones must have been truly amazing.

Anyway, when it comes to Islay to my mind, Laphroaig, Lagavulin and Ardbeg are the 'Big 3', and they've all got distinct characters. There's a bit of a spectrum of peat. At the one end you've got the pungent, medicinal, iodine sort of flavours. At the other end you've got the intense woodsmoke sort of flavours.

Laphroaig is firmly entrenched in the pungent medicinal sort of area, while Ardbeg (from what I remember at least - haven't opened my new bottle yet) is on the smoky side. Aside from the differences in peat flavour, they're both fairly dry (as much as that word can be applied to an Islay). Lagavulin probably sits halfway between pungent and smoky and it has a very intense, rich character.

I love that about them. They're all unmistakably Islay, but they're different enough to keep things interesting.
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Old 05-14-2014, 06:44 PM   #1450
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You should try Bruichladdich Laddie 10.
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:00 PM   #1451
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You should try Bruichladdich Laddie 10.


Ah Bruichladdich... another one I've not had in ages! At least, I think I've had some before, back in my favourite uni bar. They had so many whiskies in there and it was a few years ago now that I can't quite remember which ones they had. Naturally, I worked my way along the shelf.

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Old 05-14-2014, 07:16 PM   #1452
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I'm curious, are you a Talisker fan?
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Old 05-14-2014, 08:45 PM   #1453
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Yea, one day when I've got oodles of cash i'll have to try that Lagavulin you all keep raving about.
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Old 05-15-2014, 11:56 AM   #1454
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I'm curious, are you a Talisker fan?


Yep. I've got a bottle of the Storm open at the moment. Nearly empty though.
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Old 05-24-2014, 11:52 AM   #1455
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Okay guys, I'm nearing the end of my (short lived) bottle of Laphroaig. It was nice, especially after the first few glasses, it became markedly sweeter and less sausage tasting.

Now I need your help!

Recommend me a bottle of something I will enjoy. Here are my terms:

1. 30 dollars or under (750 ml)
2. Single malt scotch
3. Balanced, floral or malty, doesn't matter.



So far I have in mind Speyburn 10 and Glenmorangie. Shieldaig 12yr?
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Old 05-24-2014, 02:02 PM   #1456
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If you want peaty, get Finlaggan Old reserve ($19 at Trader Joes). Imagine if Laphraoig put out a 7 year, that's kind of what it tastes like. Some people love it, some people hate it.

Glenmorangie definitely fits the 'balanced' description. At the price level you're looking at, you'll probably find any number of mild-tasting Speysiders.
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:47 PM   #1457
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Got myself a bottle of Balvenie Signature today.







I keep buying this stuff faster than I drink it...

From left:
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Jura 16 Diurach's Own
Highland Park 12
Balvenie 12 DoubleWood
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Laphroaig 10
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Glenmorangie 12 Quinta Ruban
Glenmorangie 12 Lasanta
Glenmorangie 10 Original
Glenfiddich 14 Rich Oak

Recently finished another bottle of Talisker Storm, an Old Pulteney 12 and an Aberlour 10.

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Old 06-16-2014, 06:44 AM   #1460
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^You have excellent taste. Four Roses is one of my favourite bourbons, and Lagavulin...best Islay available in my opinion.
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