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Old 10-28-2014, 04:43 PM   #5761
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Old 10-28-2014, 05:36 PM   #5762
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why does it matter where it is in a chord progression? also, is this like musical theory? How did you learn this naming chord stuff?
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Old 10-28-2014, 05:54 PM   #5763
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why does it matter where it is in a chord progression?

Chord-naming mainly depends on context because you can name a chord many different things. Just like the example you posted, Absus4add9 or Bbm11 are both vaild names.

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Pretty much the first thing you learn with theory

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How did you learn this naming chord stuff?

Plenty of stuff online, or you can buy a music theory book (There's many that are guitar-orientated). Chord construction and the Major/Minor scales are what you need to know.

I forget the names of the guitar-friendly ones tbh because I haven't needed to look at one in ages, but maybe someone else knows about a good one.
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Old 10-28-2014, 06:36 PM   #5764
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Chord-naming mainly depends on context because you can name a chord many different things. Just like the example you posted, Absus4add9 or Bbm11 are both vaild names.


Pretty much the first thing you learn with theory


Plenty of stuff online, or you can buy a music theory book (There's many that are guitar-orientated). Chord construction and the Major/Minor scales are what you need to know.

I forget the names of the guitar-friendly ones tbh because I haven't needed to look at one in ages, but maybe someone else knows about a good one.

thanks. would you say that chord naming/constructing is worth learning?
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Old 10-28-2014, 06:45 PM   #5765
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thanks. would you say that chord naming/constructing is worth learning?


Learning that was the by faaaaaaar biggest improvement in my 7 years of guitar playing. Nothing else comes close.

That counts as a yes btw.
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Learning that was the by faaaaaaar biggest improvement in my 7 years of guitar playing. Nothing else comes close.

That counts as a yes btw.

what would you say is more important, learning modes or this stuff?
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Old 10-28-2014, 06:52 PM   #5767
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thanks. would you say that chord naming/constructing is worth learning?


If you spend a while doing it right, eventually it'll just become second-nature and you won't even have to think about the simple stuff (most popular songs). Learning it will help your own songwriting too as you'll begin to understand how songs are built from the ground up.

^You won't understand modes until you understand scale and chord construction.
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Old 10-28-2014, 07:14 PM   #5768
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what would you say is more important, learning modes or this stuff?


This. You need to know chord construction and note names to properly understand modes anyway.

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Old 10-28-2014, 07:18 PM   #5769
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If you spend a while doing it right, eventually it'll just become second-nature and you won't even have to think about the simple stuff (most popular songs). Learning it will help your own songwriting too as you'll begin to understand how songs are built from the ground up.

^You won't understand modes until you understand scale and chord construction.

oh, isnt the song structure thing with the roman numerals that symbolize what part of the scale they are talking about? also if the roman numeral is capitalized than it is a major chord, if it isnt its minor. i think i learned a bit of that so i could probably take a pop song and write the structure. what does that have to do with the construction of chords though? also, I know how to play all of the modes, phygian, dorian etc. i think i understand how to play those pretty well, and i barely understand scale and chord construction.
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oh, isnt the song structure thing with the roman numerals that symbolize what part of the scale they are talking about? also if the roman numeral is capitalized than it is a major chord, if it isnt its minor. i think i learned a bit of that so i could probably take a pop song and write the structure. what does that have to do with the construction of chords though? also, I know how to play all of the modes, phygian, dorian etc. i think i understand how to play those very well, and i barely understand scale and chord construction.


I'm taking more in the grand scheme of things. Roman numeral analysis is part of it as it describes chord progressions. Chord construction will help you analyse those progressions on a deeper level and well as build your own with alterations or chord substitutions. It'll all help you find the tonic/key/tonality of a song so you can jam along with it.

You may know how to run up and down your modal shapes, but the fact that you said you barely understand scale and chord contruction means that you don't understand how your modes can be applied to music.
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^ Lol, yeah. If you don't understand scale and chord construction, you don't really know modes either. It's not possible, since they are so closely related.
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