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Old 03-18-2013, 10:20 PM   #1
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So I'm at work and thinking to myself

So pit, question. I'm at work the other day just pondering life and whatnot, y'know, work stuff. Anyway I got to thinking and I'm not sure what I feel on this yet, figured you lot were the best ones to ask.

Does a job/task in itself determine it's wages, or should the wages of a task be based upon the worker?

Any monkey can move bricks, but someone you know to be a hard worker might be worth paying more to do the job properly and not take short cuts. Then again, simple labor can be taxing and may merit a higher pay. Maybe it's a stupid question and I should think about work at work.

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Old 03-18-2013, 10:22 PM   #2
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I'm tired of wages altogether. It's kind of demeaning in general for people to have to live off of what value they can create for some guy who has a lot of money.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:25 PM   #3
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I'm tired of wages altogether. It's kind of demeaning in general for people to have to live off of what value they can create for some guy who has a lot of money.

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Old 03-18-2013, 10:26 PM   #4
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You're value is based on how replaceable you are/dangerous your job is.

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Old 03-18-2013, 10:27 PM   #5
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You're value is based on how replaceable you are/dangerous your job is.

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But I don't wanna be value.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:29 PM   #6
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Any monkey can move bricks, but someone you know to be a hard worker might be worth paying more to do the job properly and not take short cuts.

On the contrary, the monkey who is lazy and takes short cuts (***while maintaining quality***) is the more valuable one.
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On the contrary, the monkey who is lazy and takes short cuts (***while maintaining quality***) is the more valuable one.

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Old 03-18-2013, 11:40 PM   #8
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Read Adam Smith The Wealth of Nations

In an ideal world we would live in a world without scarcity of supply, while the majority of the work most do is for our own sustinance.

but thats never going to happen.

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Old 03-19-2013, 12:44 AM   #9
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You are paid what a business can afford to spare for your position. Just like on a sports team, specific funds are budgeted towards different jobs.

Want to have the ability to name your price? Be better than everyone around you at everything. Some people say "oh then they'll always expect you to do more than everyone else"... well that's the point. It pays off in the end.
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Old 03-19-2013, 12:48 AM   #10
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But I don't wanna be value.

Good cuz you're worthless.
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:08 AM   #11
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Good cuz you're worthless.

dude.....rough....
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You're value is based on how replaceable you are/dangerous your job is.

Period.

Man, I hate to say it, but that's a very true statement. Though I'll admit, it's a damn shame the world operates like that
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:17 AM   #13
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dude.....rough....

Man, I hate to say it, but that's a very true statement. Though I'll admit, it's a damn shame the world operates like that


It doesn't have to, but an unfair majority of people choose not to better themselves, and so the expectations of the average worker slip, along with wages.

I work in a *******, and most people there, while they're quite good at their jobs and don't **** around, aren't interested in moving on in the world. They're content with their position, and so there's no urgency from management to keep them around with better pay. Turnover is a factor, too. It's expensive to hire and fire people left and right like most jobs are forced to do.

My last job, I was offered a $2/hr raise to stay after I put in my 2-week notice. Why? Because I determine my value, not them. That's generalized as hell for effect, but hopefully my point is clear.
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