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Old 07-04-2013, 02:07 AM   #2541
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lawl i just read that earlier today.

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If it's a clown burst, you probably need to keep it out of the case and let it get some sun?

depends on what year it is. they used different reds over the years and they acted differently.

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Old 07-06-2013, 12:00 AM   #2542
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ippon what spray can lacquer stuff do you use?

how is watco? it's cheap by me is why i ask. or minwax? or ?

also, reranch bsb or is there a better one if i'm lazy and use a rattle can? saw graceys and it's a little pricer, but still not too much. thoughts?
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Old 07-07-2013, 05:06 PM   #2543
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So I have a mid 90's les paul special laying around in desperate need of a refinish. I truly hate the way these guitars look though. Absent the maple top and binding to me a Les Paul just looks like shit. So what do you guys think I should do with this p.o.s? I'm thinking of doing a satin black finish and throwing on a bunch of black gotoh hardware just to get it to a level I can sale the damned thing. I'm curious about what you guys think I should do though?
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:15 PM   #2544
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I skimmed through a few pages on the thread and couldn't find anything so sorry if this has already been asked! I'm trying to repaint my guitar and I've already scuff sanded it, but I'm really confused about the different kinds of paint. It seems like acrylic paint is a better choice, so I went out and bought the colour I wanted in acrylic, but I couldn't find any water-based primers?

Also, is Krylon indoor/outdoor (the new formula) enamel or acrylic? Idk because the store employees told me it's water-based but I've read on the internet somewhere that it's oil-based so like yea I'M JUST REALLY CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT KIND OF PAINT I SHOULD BE USING
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:40 PM   #2545
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They dont make any water based primers that i am aware of. But acrylic lacquer can be sprayed on most primers.

Chances are, its enamel. Most krylon is.
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:51 PM   #2546
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They dont make any water based primers that i am aware of. But acrylic lacquer can be sprayed on most primers.

Chances are, its enamel. Most krylon is.

I bought a can of Liquitex acrylic spray paint, is that the same as acrylic lacquer and will it stick to an enamel primer?
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:11 PM   #2547
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They dont make any water based primers that i am aware of. But acrylic lacquer can be sprayed on most primers.

Chances are, its enamel. Most krylon is.

Yep! However, you can still find the older version.

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Here's what I remember from when I called Krylon or maybe Sherwin-Williams, the parent company of Krylon: the colorcoat and clearcoat that you have are both Enamel. So, at least they're compatible and won't crinkle or crease when you apply them together. This is assuming your primer/sanding sealer is also Enamel.

Here are the things to differentiate the old Acrylic Lacquer Krylon from the new Enamel Krylon based on the spraycan descriptions:

Acrylic Lacquer (old formula):
  • Interior-Exterior
  • Dries in 12 Minutes or less
  • Cover is not bullet-shaped
  • 5 balls in a circle forms a circle (front view)
  • Nozzle is not adjustable

Enamel (new formula):
  • Indoor-Outdoor
  • Dries in 10 minutes or less
  • Cover is bullet-shaped
  • 5 balls in a circle is laid flat
  • Nozzle is adjustable



This doesn't mean yours won't work ... it'll just take a bit longer to harden/dry to the point that you can wetsand or sand. You need to be even more patient.

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Old 08-03-2013, 05:30 PM   #2548
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Ah ok that's what I thought, thanks! I'm still pretty sure I don't want to use enamel though, I've heard all these horror stories about it never curing...

Also, I looked in 3 different stores and none of them carried the old Krylon so but yea, do you know if any water based paint will stick on an enamel primer? or am I just better off painting on a water based primer with a brush
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:36 PM   #2549
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Brushing the primer is fine. I've used brush to lay down the final clearcoat top (Polycrylic). The buffing/polishing sorts it out for a mirror finish.

It's better to stick to a family of finish to keep it simple - Acrylic sealer, colorcoat, and clear, unless you want to experiment.
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:40 PM   #2550
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Brushing the primer is fine. I've used brush to lay down the final clearcoat top (Polycrylic). The buffing/polishing sorts it out for a mirror finish.

It's better to stick to a family of finish to keep it simple - Acrylic sealer, colorcoat, and clear, unless you want to experiment.

Will brushing it require a lot more sanding?
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:45 PM   #2551
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If you're anal about it and just starting out, I'd follow the guidelines closely; so, probably yes, specially if it's rough. Once you get a feel for it, regular wetsanding would be sufficient.

There are pros in this forum; so, listen to them.
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:46 PM   #2552
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If you're anal about it and just starting out, I'd follow the guidelines closely; so, probably yes, specially if it's rough. Once you get a feel for it, regular wetsanding would be sufficient.

There are pros in this forum; so, listen to them.

Alright, thank you so much!
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:42 AM   #2553
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I have a quick question. Can I spray enamel lacquer on top op wood that has been treated with linseed oil?

I plan on sanding a veneered pickguard with fine wet/dry paper and linseed oil. This will create a slurry of oil and dust that will fill pores and holes giving a smoother surface as well as it wil darken the wood. Can I proceed to spray enamel lacquer on top of such a surface once it is dry?
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:10 AM   #2554
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So I ended up using oil-based primer and the acrylic paint and it's going well so far! I think I'm almost ready to clear coat it, but I just have a few questions:

1) Should I wet sand the acrylic colour coats before I clear coat it? Will the water somehow wash off the paint because it's water-based paint? I've just been sanding it with 600 grit

2) Is it ok to use Krylon acrylic crystal clear spray to clear coat it?

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Old 08-13-2013, 10:15 AM   #2555
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I have a quick question. Can I spray enamel lacquer on top op wood that has been treated with linseed oil?

I plan on sanding a veneered pickguard with fine wet/dry paper and linseed oil. This will create a slurry of oil and dust that will fill pores and holes giving a smoother surface as well as it wil darken the wood. Can I proceed to spray enamel lacquer on top of such a surface once it is dry?

idk on that one bud, i'll let someone else that's worked with linseed answer you.
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So I ended up using oil-based primer and the acrylic paint and it's going well so far! I think I'm almost ready to clear coat it, but I just have a few questions:

1) Should I wet sand the acrylic colour coats before I clear coat it? Will the water somehow wash off the paint because it's water-based paint? I've just been sanding it with 600 grit

2) Is it ok to use Krylon acrylic crystal clear spray to clear coat it?

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1 - i wouldn't. i'd save wet sanding for the clear coats for leveling/polishing. (i think ippon said that as well above somewhere).

2 - yes - he also said, sticking to one family of product for a finish is a good idea.
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Old 08-13-2013, 02:50 PM   #2556
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Okay, thanks and I wanted to stick to one family of products, but the only acrylic paint I could find was this one and they only make colours (????) and not anything else. But yea thank you for the clarification!
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:17 PM   #2557
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Sorry for all the questions (and the double post) but I just did the first coat of clear and there are paint splatters/spots everywhere, like they aren't raised or bumpy really, just darker than the non-splattered areas.

Should I sand it, or should I just keep going? Will more coats of clear help cover it up? Thanks guys
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:28 PM   #2558
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can you post pics?

splatters with darker spots doesn't sound right, unless you didn't shoot the entire surface?
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:54 PM   #2559
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can you post pics?

splatters with darker spots doesn't sound right, unless you didn't shoot the entire surface?





ignore the black marks, they're just scratches on my camera lens
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Old 12-25-2013, 06:42 AM   #2560
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my Ibanez S520. first ever paint job. great learning experience
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