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Old 03-11-2014, 10:59 PM   #1
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good metal amp?

i own a BC Rich Bich NJ from 1984 and im about to upgrade the pickups. I plan on getting blackouts so i need an amp that will handle it good. I currently was planning on using a VOX VALVETRONIX AD30VT 30 WATT GUITAR AMPLIFIER but was told that i should upgrade that. I posted on here earlier and decided to upgrade my price range. The amps i was offered were a peavey vypr tube 60 and a blackstar id core 40. I like the blackstar a lot more. I would like to know what would be an upgrade from the id core 40 but still $600 or under? The core40 is $200
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Old 03-11-2014, 11:36 PM   #2
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you will get more hits if you ask a more specific.

not to rag on you, but i have probably seen a dozen of threads with a similar title, and i usually don't post. however,

honestly i haven't played that blackstar, so i can't throw any wait there.

i have played a vypyr60 tube, and it was relatively simple to use and it sounded quite good for a modeling amp. i have played quite of different amps but as far as modeling is lackluseter. IMO its hard to beat vypyr




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Old 03-12-2014, 01:26 AM   #3
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Well; for metal, the Peavey 6505 series tends to rule the roost, and the 1x12" combo sells for right around US$600.00 new, so I would look at that.
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Old 03-12-2014, 01:45 AM   #4
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Well; for metal, the Peavey 6505 series tends to rule the roost, and the 1x12" combo sells for right around US$600.00 new, so I would look at that.


+3.1415, but what kind of tone are you looking for? give us a few examples. metal can be from cannibal corpse, to lamb of god or black metal like emperor.
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Old 03-12-2014, 03:23 AM   #5
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Yeah to a lot of people metal means like Ozzy or something. I'm thinking this guy wants to sound like Dying Fetus and needs a VH-140
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Old 03-12-2014, 04:47 AM   #6
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+3.1415, but what kind of tone are you looking for? give us a few examples. metal can be from cannibal corpse, to lamb of god or black metal like emperor.



Well a buddy of mine from MI in LA just moved back to town and i told him i wanted to play metal with him and he told me he wanted to play songs from the band War from a harlots mouth. So i guess thats the general metal im looking to play. I also like to play korn, pantera, system of a down, slipknot, drowning pool also more heavier stuff like Napalm Death.
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Old 03-12-2014, 04:48 AM   #7
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Well; for metal, the Peavey 6505 series tends to rule the roost, and the 1x12" combo sells for right around US$600.00 new, so I would look at that.



i heard the ID is 2x12
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Old 03-12-2014, 05:08 AM   #8
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Well a buddy of mine from MI in LA just moved back to town and i told him i wanted to play metal with him and he told me he wanted to play songs from the band War from a harlots mouth. So i guess thats the general metal im looking to play. I also like to play korn, pantera, system of a down, slipknot, drowning pool also more heavier stuff like Napalm Death.


A 6505+ 112 and a good EQ like the MXR 10 Band would be an excellent way to go.

The Vypyr Tube 60 would also do that no problem if you want to go a simpler/cheaper route.
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i heard the ID is 2x12


It may be, but it is a solid-state, entry-level amplifier. For what you want to play, you are probably not going to be happy with anything less than a high-gain tube amplifier.
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Old 03-12-2014, 08:18 AM   #10
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I'd look for a used 6505+ 112 and get an MXR 10-band eq and a Tubescreamer. You can find them all day in the U.S. for around $450 used. New, they are $600, if you'd rather go that route. But they really shine with those two pedals. For the price, I don't think there's an amp out there that can match a 6505's all-out aggressiveness for metal tone. They certainly shit on all the Blackstars I've played -- however, I haven't played their high-end stuff (anything beyond the HT series).

You did not mention cleans, but I should mention that 6505s need a little coaxing to get good cleans. But it can be done. Technically, they are like a 3-channel amp. The 'rhythm' channel is clean without the crunch boost engaged. But it only stays clean with the gain turned down quite a bit -- which makes it difficult to get a good hard rock sound unless you turn the gain up a bit (it's difficult to set the rhythm channel for both clean and crunch on the fly -- you kind of have to choose one or the other, or be willing to turn up the gain for more crunch). The lead channel is for all-out brutality. I just set mine for good cleans and use my lead channel for anything requiring distortion.
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I'd also suggest 6505 or something else by Peavey, maybe XXX or its new reincarnation.
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5150 combo 212 off of craigslist is a good place to start. I got mine for $400 in very good condition. Highly recommend the MXR 10 band (eBay) and a tube screamer (there are tons of which tubescreamer threads).
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5150 combo 212 off of craigslist is a good place to start. I got mine for $400 in very good condition. Highly recommend the MXR 10 band (eBay) and a tube screamer (there are tons of which tubescreamer threads).



you still selling the Randall RG100SC?
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you still selling the Randall RG100SC?


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Old 03-13-2014, 12:48 PM   #15
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JCA100 can get pretty mean, especially with a boost. But the 6505 just has that tone a lot of people are after.
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