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Old 12-31-2012, 06:30 PM   #1
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Do Sabian Holy cymbals break?

I was at Guitar Center today looking for a china when I came by the 17" Sabian Holy China. It sounded beautiful, but someone else there told me that because there are holes in it, it has weak points and will break easily. Is this true? Does anyone have experience with these?
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Old 01-01-2013, 01:15 PM   #2
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They only break easily if you:

- Mount them wrong

- Over-tighten them

- Have poor technique and pound them as hard as you can.

They're just like every other cymbal, take care of it and it'll last. And the holes won't make it that much weaker, cymbals are still very durable.
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Old 01-01-2013, 02:52 PM   #3
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They only break easily if you:

- Mount them wrong

- Over-tighten them

- Have poor technique and pound them as hard as you can.

They're just like every other cymbal, take care of it and it'll last. And the holes won't make it that much weaker, cymbals are still very durable.

Good to know
This cymbal is probably the best sounding china I have ever heard, I didn't want to let it slip away because of poor design.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:32 AM   #4
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The drummer in my band has had one of these for a few years now. He's a pretty heavy-handed player, and there's not so much as a crack in it.
The diameter of the holes isn't large enough to compromise the strength. As already mentioned, as long as it's cared for and mounted correctly, it should be fine.
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:00 AM   #5
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My drummer breaks Z-rock cymbals and those are thick as hell, so yes you can break those. Just be careful and try not to pound on it
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My drummer breaks Z-rock cymbals and those are thick as hell, so yes you can break those. Just be careful and try not to pound on it


I've always heard that heavy cymbals actually break easier than thinner ones because they have less give to them.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:57 PM   #7
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I've always heard that heavy cymbals actually break easier than thinner ones because they have less give to them.

I've heard this as well, and if you think about it, it seems logical. The cymbal can bend more easily, which means it takes the force of a hit much better, as it can evenly distribute the velocity of the hit. A heavier cymbal is more rigid and can't do this as easily.

Either way, if you're breaking cymbals, you're hitting them incorrectly. Always cracks me up when I see bands playing with thousands of dollars worth of metal on their kits and every single one of them is broken. You've either got your cymbal choked so much that it can't vibrate properly, the height is too high/too low for your arm span which makes you hit them at a weird angle, or too hard, or you're chopping at them instead of hitting them at a glancing blow.

It's really easy not to break cymbals, in fact, I've been playing on my cymbals for like 5 years and I have a hard time wrapping my head around how people actually break them in the first place. I guess people think they're Donkey Kong smashing on their cymbals or something
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It's really easy not to break cymbals, in fact, I've been playing on my cymbals for like 5 years and I have a hard time wrapping my head around how people actually break them in the first place. I guess people think they're Donkey Kong smashing on their cymbals or something


I think a lot of them would do well to learn that throwing their entire body weight into their cymbals isn't going to make them louder.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:01 AM   #9
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Holy Chinas are the best IMO. Any China will be a little weaker, but treated with respect it can last a lifetime.
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