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Old 01-24-2015, 08:28 PM   #12961
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I think that the fishing and wine drinking scene with Bill from The Sun Also Rises is one of my favorite individual pieces of literature.
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Old 01-24-2015, 08:46 PM   #12962
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War and Peace is a much easier read than I thought, more entertaining than I thought 19th century russian literature could ever be.
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:59 AM   #12963
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I just finished reading Orientalism but I totally wasn't absorbing it half the time since I read it on the tedious commute home and half of the stuff I highlighted is words i needed to look up. And all those French quotations with no translation grr.

There were some bits that stuck with me but nothing that allows me to see the world from a different point of view now - most of what I understood was stuff I had observed before and had already formed similar conclusions about. The friend who recommended it to me said that I should've read the preface and the afterword before reading the rest of the text...Well thanks a lot it's too late now lol.

I will definitely be rereading this in the future but not anytime soon. Maybe when I go to this island where there's no wifi and nothing to do except fish, which I don't. For now I am rereading Stuff White People Like because I want to understand how to manipulate my oppressors and also my brain is kinda tired
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:47 AM   #12964
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The preface is a handy summary of what it's all about so yea that's good advice

It really changed my views on a lot of stuff, that the Orient is a production of the west rather than just 'observed fact' and how it's all tied up with a Foucauldian power structure.
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:54 PM   #12965
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I think that the fishing and wine drinking scene with Bill from The Sun Also Rises is one of my favorite individual pieces of literature.

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also Bill's line "The road to hell is paved with unbought stuffed dogs" = best line ever
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:26 PM   #12966
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Haha yeah that line is great

"We must utilize the product of the vine. Will you utilize, brother?"
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:42 PM   #12967
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Reading these sci if short stories for class tomorrow, they're kinda funny, some a bit roll eyes, and some really rather cool. Like the one I just read, 'Desertion', about humans having to convert into new creatures to explore Jupiter and a guy and his dog do it and experience a vastly improved intelligence, keener senses etc and don't come back to the research station thing cos they don't wanna be shitty man and dog again
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:57 PM   #12968
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Old 01-25-2015, 04:05 PM   #12969
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It stretches from early 20th century stuff to the 90s so: HG Wells, Frank Pollack, John W Campbell, Cliffard Simak, Walter Miller, Frederick Pohl, Brian Aldiss, Racoona Sheldon.

those are just the ones I've been prescribed. It's from the 'Oxford book of Science Fiction Stories' edited by Tom Shipley if yer interested
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:44 PM   #12970
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I just read The Postman Always Rings Twice. Wow. Is James M. Cain the GOAT noir writer?
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Old 01-28-2015, 11:55 AM   #12971
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I'm looking for recommendations.

A fantasy (or perhaps sci-fi that I haven't heard of) with very vivid, detailed, descriptive writing and sweeping landscapes and poetic prose. And great world building

Think the description in Lord of the Rings, but more, and no hokey pokey nonsense. For a sci-fi comparison, think of the level of detail and world building in Peter Hamilton's books.

So yeah, maybe a fantasy series written by someone who writes like Proust? Anybody got anything?
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Old 01-28-2015, 01:36 PM   #12972
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I'm looking for recommendations.

A fantasy (or perhaps sci-fi that I haven't heard of) with very vivid, detailed, descriptive writing and sweeping landscapes and poetic prose. And great world building

Think the description in Lord of the Rings, but more, and no hokey pokey nonsense. For a sci-fi comparison, think of the level of detail and world building in Peter Hamilton's books.

So yeah, maybe a fantasy series written by someone who writes like Proust? Anybody got anything?

Have you read The Name of the Wind? Might not match everything you want but it's very immersive, in my opinion.
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Old 01-28-2015, 05:10 PM   #12973
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Just finished Ocean At The End Of The Lane by Neil Gaiman, enjoyable stuff.
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Old 01-28-2015, 05:17 PM   #12974
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I'm looking for recommendations.

A fantasy (or perhaps sci-fi that I haven't heard of) with very vivid, detailed, descriptive writing and sweeping landscapes and poetic prose. And great world building

Think the description in Lord of the Rings, but more, and no hokey pokey nonsense. For a sci-fi comparison, think of the level of detail and world building in Peter Hamilton's books.

So yeah, maybe a fantasy series written by someone who writes like Proust? Anybody got anything?


Perdido Street Station for the urban equivalent of middle earth. Railsea for a fantasy world where the sea is still land, and instead of boats you have trains (hence Railsea) Great, subtle world building in it, lots of weird monsters, lore, city-states etc.


Oh you actually might be very interested in the Viriconium series by M. John Harrison. Probably some of the best prose I've read in fantasy, and it combines a medieval setting with a really cool and peculiar sci-fi aesthetic. He mostly writes SF tho so you might wanna check 'em out generally.
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Thanks for the recommendations, I'll check them out
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Old Yesterday, 11:59 AM   #12976
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just watched Killing Them Softly and now i wanna read Cogan's Trade.

any other George V Higgins books i should check out?
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