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Old 10-06-2013, 06:02 PM   #1
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What am I, musically speaking? Guitarist? Composer? Other?

I have to confess I often do not touch a guitar during my "music time," it's all spent on computer programming midi drums or synths or whatever. My technique is weak, and the synths allow me to get the songs ideas down with precision I cannot emulate playing guitar. The downside is my rock songs are now techno songs. Also, while there is greater precision, I do note I can more readily make minor adjustments playing to get into a groove and add embellishments on the fly that is missing with midi / synth programming.

I guess I have two desires -- one, to be a great guitarist, or even a good guitarist, who can pick up the guitar and play with solid technique, timing, etc. But I also have these song ideas I'd like to lay down, in some form, playing with melodies and harmonies, and it's easier to do that with the midi stuff.

I was wondering if great composers are those who are more interested in playing around with musical ideas, the way I do with midi, rather than gaining physical mastery of a particular instrument?

Do musicians kind of fall into two types -- players and composers, or is it all kind of one and the same? Maybe this is a philosophical question with no answer, just wondering if it's a common battle others are waging with themselves.

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Old 10-06-2013, 07:21 PM   #2
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A musician is someone who plays a musical instrument.

A composer is someone who writes music.

You can be one or the other, neither or both. You can be more of one than the other, too.
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:30 PM   #3
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I have to confess I often do not touch a guitar during my "music time," it's all spent on computer programming midi drums or synths or whatever. My technique is weak, and the synths allow me to get the songs ideas down with precision I cannot emulate playing guitar. The downside is my rock songs are now techno songs. Also, while there is greater precision, I do note I can more readily make minor adjustments playing to get into a groove and add embellishments on the fly that is missing with midi / synth programming.

I guess I have two desires -- one, to be a great guitarist, or even a good guitarist, who can pick up the guitar and play with solid technique, timing, etc. But I also have these song ideas I'd like to lay down, in some form, playing with melodies and harmonies, and it's easier to do that with the midi stuff.

I was wondering if great composers are those who are more interested in playing around with musical ideas, the way I do with midi, rather than gaining physical mastery of a particular instrument?

Do musicians kind of fall into two types -- players and composers, or is it all kind of one and the same? Maybe this is a philosophical question with no answer, just wondering if it's a common battle others are waging with themselves.

Ken

Well, if you make your own music, your a musician, or, a composer....if you play the guitar, your a guitarist.
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:36 PM   #4
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Who cares? Do what you want to do.
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Old 10-07-2013, 03:06 AM   #5
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:45 AM   #6
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There is no battle unless you create it. But you are right that a mediocre technique can limit your expression. In fact, this is one reason why I like singing for example...it is the only instrument that you can control in such a direct way so you can focus more on the creative part. If you feel you are limited then work on removing these limitations, if not then who cares? That's about it. And techno rock sounds interesting.
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:27 AM   #7
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For the perfect command it is necessary to focus upon one thing either musician or composer but not on both. If you try to do both in one time then there is possibility of mixing up the knowledge and you will not get perfect command.
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Old 10-09-2013, 04:50 AM   #8
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I asked myself the same question a while back and the answer is quite simple if you alter the question a bit;

what do you get paid for doing?

...me Im a chef.

.....and on occasion a musician in a coverband but mainly a chef.

And for arguments on that statement I just have to say that most everyone prepares a meal 3 times a day at home ....but there isnt a hope in hell that Id be hiring them to stand on my line anytime soon!!!!
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Old 10-09-2013, 08:54 AM   #9
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For the perfect command it is necessary to focus upon one thing either musician or composer but not on both. If you try to do both in one time then there is possibility of mixing up the knowledge and you will not get perfect command.

Dude WTF? You clearly don't even know what you are talking about. I would say I'm both a musician and a composer (if a musician is a guy who plays instruments and a composer is a guy who writes songs). I write my own songs and also play them. And I'm sure most musicians are both. If your band writes your own songs and also plays them, they are both musicians and composers. Though I think all composers are musicians. So maybe we should call them instrumentalists/singers and composers or something.
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Old 10-09-2013, 09:02 AM   #10
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^ If anything, the two are complimentary. Personally, I would put myself in shoes similar to TS. I write music entirely in GP5 as it just comes more naturally to me. I like to learn the music I compose after. I feel it makes my writing more concise - no need to learn scales and other chords on the instrument if I learn my way round them on Guitar Pro! Not to mention an instrument is called an instrument for a reason...
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Old 10-09-2013, 12:34 PM   #11
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^ If anything, the two are complimentary.


yeah absolutely, there's some overlap for sure. I didn't mean those definitions I posted to be totally black-and-white. Just if you *have to* define what they are, that seems a fairly sensible way to do it.
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