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Old 12-12-2012, 05:29 PM   #1
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Just Bought a guitar, need help please

Hi everyone,

I have just purchased a 2004 American Standard Strat from ebay and i'm a little concerned that I may not have been sold what has been advertised :/

It was advertised as..

"Beautiful example of the 2004 Fender USA Stratocaster. No visible signs of wear, except one small scratch by the jack socket (too small to photograph) No buckle rash. Back is immaculate. Comes in its Fender case with trem arm and case candy. Looks almost unplayed (but I know it has been!!)"

I'm not really a fussy guy, if there were a few more dings than advertised it wouldn't be a reason for me to cause any fuss, but there are just a few things i'm not sure of that I would like you guys to help me with if you could.

Firstly the frets are green at either side of the neck.
Some of the black fret dots have whiteish circle bits on them and the dots along the neck have whiter edges.
Some of the frets have a wax looking stuff coming off the board and onto the actual fret.
where the neck meets the body there is a gap (That could be normal I don't know)

there are some pics attached

Does it sound to you like the neck has mybe been replaced with a 2004 neck or even a fake neck? Or are these the results of incorrect care for the neck?

I'm not an expert, I paid 575 + 25 post and packaging.

I contacted the seller to ask him if it was the original neck or if he had done any work to it, to which he replied he assumes it is. So i questioned that and stated that it didn't seem like the item as described and that if I was right I would be expecting something to be done about it, to which he to me if I messaged him anymore like that he would report me to eBay for accusing him of selling something not as described.

If it is then i'll be more than happy to keep it because I think it's beautiful, but if not I'd rather spend or save the 600 for another guitar.

I'd appreciate any help on this
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File Type: jpg Fret Marks 3 (Custom).jpg (31.2 KB, 69 views)
File Type: jpg Waxy Stuff (Custom).jpg (35.3 KB, 91 views)
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:39 PM   #2
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Lol at him saying he'd report you for just asking a honest question.

Post the headstock. And the serial number. And the listing.

My Strat isn't that old but I can't imagine the lacquer coming off like that.

Is the headstock glossy like the fretboard?
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:43 PM   #3
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Another thing, doesn't fake silver make shit it comes into contact with go green?

Mighty mite necks don't come with a logo as far as I know, but they do feel like the original and people can print a logo onto it. Do you have a guitar shop near you?

I'm not saying I think it's fake or anything, just gathering evidence. I hope it's not!
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:08 PM   #4
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TS, does that waxy looking stuff cause a bump the fret board, or is it just like a discolouration there? What I mean is, when you run your finger over the stops does it feel different from the rest of the board?
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:11 PM   #5
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It could be possible that a former owner has used a fret board cleaner not suited to maple boards. I've never seen what happens in that situation however so i'm not certain.

Best bet is to run a check on it's serial number.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:17 PM   #6
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What ^ said was what I was getting at.

Google Fender serial checker and read what it says and check the serial number out. But that being said, a legitimate serial number could be printed on a fake neck.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:59 PM   #7
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Got the link to the original advert?
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:02 PM   #8
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Hi guys,

I've added the requested photos

here's the link to the guitar

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-US...cvip=true&rt=nc

I don't feel any bump when running my finger over the waxy stuff it runs smoothly onto the fret, never seen anything like tht before.

I also think the truss rod hole at the top looks a little strange but I could be wrong.

I checked the serial number, it says made in Corona Plant 2004
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:03 PM   #9
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Get the serial number and check it out mate.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:07 PM   #10
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how does the guitar play?

is the intonation good?
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:12 PM   #11
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That Gap is normal, so I wouldn't worry about that.

Now the stuff on the fret board would have me questioning why it is there. Is it flaky like way or is it more like a glue?
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I used the guitar dater project to check it, is there a better one?

It does play nice, and sounds nice. Yeah intonation is good too.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:14 PM   #13
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I used the guitar dater project to check it, is there a better one?

It does play nice, and sounds nice. Yeah intonation is good too.



honestly, i'd just have the frets cleaned.
the dope probably used dunlop lemon oil
on the board, like said.
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That Gap is normal, so I wouldn't worry about that.

Now the stuff on the fret board would have me questioning why it is there. Is it flaky like way or is it more like a glue?


It seems to be tough and looks flaky, one of the 'slopes' has a crack. It's as if it runs straight from the rest of the board. The quality of the pics don't show it as well but it actually lead up onto the fret metal. If the frets gets tapped and forced into the fretboard then it definetly shouldnt go up onto it.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:30 PM   #15
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I think barring a remarkable case of bad luck its genuine. I find it hard to believe someone making a fake guitar would go to so much effort and use a correct serial number, let alone be able to.

If i were you i'd take it to your local tech/shop, get it a full set up and check over and ask them what they could do about your fretboard.
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I think barring a remarkable case of bad luck its genuine. I find it hard to believe someone making a fake guitar would go to so much effort and use a correct serial number, let alone be able to.

If i were you i'd take it to your local tech/shop, get it a full set up and check over and ask them what they could do about your fretboard.


There are companies all over the place who will print stuff on whatever you want. People post their serial numbers all over the Internet. Paint a guitar candy red, find a serial number, find out its a 2005 mim Strat number and then stick in on eBay under the heading MiM Fender Strat Candy Apple Red. Serial Number supplied!

Some new player picks one up, finds out its fake. You hear about it quite frequently or variations of it.
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I suppose if it can be conceived then it'll get done at some stage or another.

In that sense then probably only somebody that spends day in day out with Strats would be able to tell, and even then there are some good copies about.
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I suppose if it can be conceived then it'll get done at some stage or another.

In that sense then probably only somebody that spends day in day out with Strats would be able to tell, and even then there are some good copies about.


Nah they don't have quality control. The guitars are made out of plywood, the signs are all over it and should be easily spotted with a little research.

If I was selling a fake anything and no serial number was a big giveaway I'd make sure it had an accurate serial number. Especially if they all over the Web.
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The discoloration on the inlays is normal. My Tele has that same issue.
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