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Old 11-09-2012, 06:33 PM   #21
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My LC15 gives good brit rock sound in small gigs, BTW, it's always good idea to mic your amp.
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:43 PM   #22
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I can get a clean(enough) tone outta my Rebel 20 while keeping up with drums and it's loud as fudge in a small bar. We're always mic'ed in a bar anyways though

I've seen a band where both guitarists used frontman 212's and it worked out well. Though they had good songs and that makes a world of difference. Maybe give those a try if you can find them cheap enough.
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:58 PM   #23
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Yeah, because they don't feel the same. Also, explain how it won't seem as powerful, you do understand how wattage works, don't you?
The wattage just is the rating of the max power before the power amp begins to clip, but that has nothing do do with what makes tubes sound louder. The method of both amplification and clipping causes our ears to perceive it as louder, which is why they slice through walls more.

Had to do a report on this crap earlier this year. I also have plenty experience of running a 100w tube amp into a 1x12 next to several 120w SS halfstacks. TS needs a tube amp.


The DSL honestly is your best bet. Plus you're in England so you should be able to get a Marshall for cheaper.
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:15 PM   #24
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Those drums are gunna be loud as you know what in a pub... I can hear my drum kit from about half a mile down the road...
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:43 PM   #25
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Those drums are gunna be loud as you know what in a pub... I can hear my drum kit from about half a mile down the road...

You must have very long arms.
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:27 PM   #26
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You must have very long arms.

Almost half a mile, eh?
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:29 PM   #27
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I'm not the only one in the house who bangs on them, lol
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:08 PM   #28
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I can get a clean(enough) tone outta my Rebel 20 while keeping up with drums and it's loud as fudge in a small bar. We're always mic'ed in a bar anyways though

I've seen a band where both guitarists used frontman 212's and it worked out well. Though they had good songs and that makes a world of difference. Maybe give those a try if you can find them cheap enough.


I don't know what it is, but my Vox AC15C1 is actually a match for my friend's frontman 212 when his clean volume and my master volume are matched. Now, my cleans have to be slightly hairy, but it matches.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:13 PM   #29
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In most pubs I find that the most that you usually need to mike up is the kick drum. Once the pub fills up the kick drum gets lost. Just tossing an SM57 inside the kick drum usually suffices.

If you don't need pristine cleans a 20W tube amp will easily get over most drummers. But it's no big deal, you just mike up the amp (you should be doing that anyway really) and organise hand signals with the sound guy so he knows when you are about to turn down so he can turn you up in the foldback and FoH.
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Old 11-10-2012, 07:21 AM   #30
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If I get a good amp head, does it matter what amp cab I use? Because I am pretty handy with wood and electronics so I could easily make one cabinet myself. Do you think this would lower the price for the gear I am looking for?
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Old 11-10-2012, 11:39 AM   #31
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^ it matters what speakers you put in the cab, and it matters that you make the cab out of plywood. you can also make it open or closed back depending on your preferences.
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