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Old 01-05-2013, 03:58 AM   #1
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Question THIS guitar for a newbie???

Hey guys. I am completely new to the world of guitar playing. However all my life I have been an avid music fan and have extensively played the alto sax. But I come to you for advice. I am looking to buy a cheap-ish electric guitar to start out with (I own an acoustic and am learning on that). Yes, I coud get the $99 starter kits, and trust me, I have thought of doing so, but then I see other guitars that cost just a tiny bit more that interest me more. Bare with me now because what you are about to hear might be the newbiest of all noob things you guys are tired of hearing:

I want a guitar that represents what I love. And my musical passion lies with The Beatles. So I was looking at guitars that were copies of ones they played, or signed by them, or hell...even had custom artwork of any of the Beatles. But it's hard to find an affordable one right now. My favorite Beatle, by far, was George Harrison; ironically more for his philosophy than his musicianship (which was amazing still). So I found this on ebay. It is a knock off, cheap, prob-sounds-bad guitar but hey...it is a replica of what George played and it's in my price range. Like I said, this is a starter guitar for me to mess around with. No shows or anything. And I would love to learn on the same model guitar the George played (obviously a knock off but beggars can't be choosers). Now I don't know too much about this whole lawsuit guitar thing, so that is where I come to you for help. I'll post the link here and you guys let me know if it's worth a shot. Thanks for your help!

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The forum might not let me post this link. So if you go to ebay and search "Semi-hollow lawsuit beatles copy", it'll take you right to it.


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Old 01-05-2013, 04:13 AM   #2
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Lets see if I can post it.

For educational purposes only.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Semi-hollow...=item337ef1dd21
Honestly. You have no idea of the quality, or if the guitar is really a MIK or MIC, or slapped together last week by some guy named Bubba.

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Always, and I mean ALWAYS be weary of anything like that on Ebay. It just screams "Hey this guitar sucks and you're an idiot for buying it."
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Old 01-05-2013, 04:54 AM   #3
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I can relate to the whole "If I buy his gear (or a reasonable facsimile of) his gear, I will feel & sound more like him"- and there is a modicum of truth to that.

But you can't do it on the cheap. Cheap guitars invariably have frustrating factors that make you want to not play, as opposed to motivating you to play.

You'll do better by buying a decent instrument with similar specs to your favorite players and go on from there. It will feel better, last better and sound better- closer to your ideal- than a cheapie.

In addition, while the guitar matters, the amp & effects matter more.

That said, the Ric sound is a bit of a toughie. I'm really kind of guessing, but I'd go for a well-built guitar with a humbucker (or P90) in the bridge and singlecoils in the neck and middle (if there is one). Guitars with 2 humbuckers could work, too, if the humbuckers are splittable (they have a switch that lets them sound more like singlecoils). Buying on a budget, I'd look at:

Used: higher-end Fender Strats or Teles, G&L ASATs or Legacies, Godin Sessions, Progressions or Velocities, Fernandes Retrorockets

New: Richmond Guitars Canada Belmont, entry level Fenders/G&L/Fernandes, or better Squiers,

I'd partner that with an amp that does cleans very well, probably a combo tube amp from someone like Fender, Vox, Carvin or Peavey.

And then, between the guitar & amp, I'd put a Janglebox.

http://janglebox.com/jangle_about.htm
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Old 01-05-2013, 06:58 AM   #4
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Great now I'm gas'n for that pedal.. thanks lol
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:30 AM   #5
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Look at the Epiphone DOT Studio $299 new. John Lenon use an Epiphone Casino for a long time and this is the same body style as that guitar.

If you live in the USA I sugest you look at guitar centers used section online. They seem to have very competitive prices on used gear and alot of the time better than you will find on Ebay/Craigslist. They also have a 30 day return policy on the item you purchase.
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:55 AM   #6
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Yeah... A poor man's Beatles rig would be a cheap semi-hollow (like Epiphone Dot) and a Vox amp, maybe Valvetronix series. You'll find them cheaper if you go used. I wouldn't buy guitars blind if I didn't have any experience with guitars. And still, I would try before I buy.
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Yeah... A poor man's Beatles rig would be a cheap semi-hollow (like Epiphone Dot) and a Vox amp, maybe Valvetronix series. You'll find them cheaper if you go used. I wouldn't buy guitars blind if I didn't have any experience with guitars. And still, I would try before I buy.

+1 also don't count out the VOX AC15 Valve reactor. It is not the exact same as the AC 15/30 that the Beatles are famous for using, but it will get you the closest and you can get them for $200ish used.
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for starters what the hell is a beatles lawsuit guitar? if the seller means a 70s lawsuit era guitar then it wouldn't have been made in korea. there are very few rickenbacker copies out there and none that are that cheap and really sound the way you want. agree that a epi semi hollow would be your best bet. you could also save more and get a gretsch electromatic series axe for early beatles tones.
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Rats- meant to mention the Gretsch Electromatics! Thanks for picking up the slack!
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:54 PM   #10
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Wow guys thanks for the insight. I didn't think I'd be getitng this many responses. I really appreciate it. You all have a point. Definitely trying it before buying it is almost a must, I agree. I spoke with the seller of the guitar. He's going to post a youtube video of the guitar so I can get a better idea. Thanks again for all of your responses!
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:46 AM   #11
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Wow guys thanks for the insight. I didn't think I'd be getitng this many responses. I really appreciate it. You all have a point. Definitely trying it before buying it is almost a must, I agree. I spoke with the seller of the guitar. He's going to post a youtube video of the guitar so I can get a better idea. Thanks again for all of your responses!

Still judging a product by a Youtube video doesn't tell the whole truth. It does tell something about the sound characteristics but nothing about how it feels in your hands. You might find much better guitars for cheaper that might even get closer to the Beatles sound. I mean, that guitar has no headstock logos or anything, you can't find any information of the guitar online. You can't tell if the seller had bought it for $50 and is selling it for $500. I would go with a safer option (it might not have the exact looks but Epiphone Dot still looks like something that fits the Beatles look).
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