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Old 04-07-2015, 02:07 PM   #11561
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Does it make a difference with your clean tone at all? I know the V2 is mostly for the drive channel, but some people say it covers part of the clean channel as well... typically internet forum information, lol.

Actually, I think you told me that. I read it on a couple forums, though.
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Old 04-07-2015, 02:23 PM   #11562
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:p "One half of the tube controls the clean, the other half controls the lead." I do use the lead channel for my "clean" tone. I just need more preamp ness with less breakup.
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Old 04-08-2015, 02:41 PM   #11563
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I should really just buy a damn 12AT7. I researched preamp tubes hardcore, trying to find a one with lots of headroom and low noise, and websites where I could buy both tubes from the same place. I was about to place an order to get a Sovtek 12AX7LPS for the V3 and a Tunsol 12AT7, but after I read that the 12AX7LPS not ideal for combo amps due to rattle I just...

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Old 04-08-2015, 11:00 PM   #11564
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I've been told from the OP(s) that a 12AT7 is what works best in V3. I have a Tung-Sol. It seems to work great c: The only thing I have troubles with is the gain structure, which I'm hopefully solving soon. I have a Tung-Sol 12AX7 in V1. Adds some crispness and clarity in contrast to the VK's darkness. I think I'll have a good combo going.

I didn't see anything about the LPS causing rattle. I almost bought one a while back.
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Old 04-09-2015, 10:51 AM   #11565
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The LPS is fine in the V3 position of a combo. I also had good luck with an AT7 in V3.

You might want to just buy an assortment of different tubes to try out.
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Old 04-10-2015, 01:27 PM   #11566
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I just picked up a VK112 used and the reverb is crazy - I can't turn it up at all as soon as I do it starts to make a kind of high pitched hum noise that gets louder as I turn the reverb up, and if I touch the reverb tank it makes a really loud continuous hum (like touching the guitar side of your patch cable to metal) - the loud hum stops if I stop touching the tank.

Anybody else have this issue or know what it might be/how to fix it?
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Old 04-10-2015, 03:00 PM   #11567
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First thing I'd check is to make sure the RCA cables are fully seated on both ends. You can try some contact cleaner on the connections as well.

I only had one of these a short while and never had an issue with it so hopefully someone else has seen this.
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Old 04-10-2015, 04:33 PM   #11568
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I just picked up a VK112 used and the reverb is crazy - I can't turn it up at all as soon as I do it starts to make a kind of high pitched hum noise that gets louder as I turn the reverb up, and if I touch the reverb tank it makes a really loud continuous hum (like touching the guitar side of your patch cable to metal) - the loud hum stops if I stop touching the tank.

Anybody else have this issue or know what it might be/how to fix it?
Well firstly the reverb on the VK is pretty meh so I wouldn't worry about it. Use that Shimverb c: But check the cables to make sure they are fully in. If it persists, look inside the tank (by unmounting it) to see if anything unusual is going on. I wouldn't know how to fix it elsehow :/

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I did try the Mullard 12AT7 in V2. It did help make the gain a little less bitty, but it sounded kind of thin. No meat to it compared to the 12AX7. A bit of EQ and more clipping could help in that regard. It helps with the lower-end mud as well. But I would only use it for heavily saturated genres.

Also, I found that the "bright" channel along with the tight resonance can give you some really nice cleans. Boost the bass a bit, cut the mids some, and give the treble a slight boost for some blackface tones. Keep the bass boosted, add mids, and cut the treble a bit for VOX. If only the clean channel had preamp/master controls...
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Old 04-11-2015, 02:21 PM   #11569
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I did check the cables and unmouted the tank and checked it out, everything seems fine - except for the not functioning part - I traded the shimverb as part of the deal to get the amp. I have a couple other verbs I can use though - ones that sound good. I was thinking of doing the reverb to master volume mod since my verb seems to be toast on this unit anyways.
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Old 04-11-2015, 02:42 PM   #11570
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I hated the VK reverb so much I completely removed the tank. I got annoyed with it after realizing that I sometimes would bump the reverb knob when moving my amp and then forget to check it.

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I think I'll get the 12AX7LPS and another TungSol 12AX7 so that I have no more stock JJs. The was manufactured in 2013, so they're probably not bad. But consensus seems to be the JJ tube don't bring out the right tones in this amp.

Anyone have experience with Sovtek 6L6WXTs? When my amp blew up, the tech put those in the power section. Prior to that, I had some medium Groove tubes in it, which sounded very sparkly and clean. These Sovteks just feel so soft in comparison... but the last thing I wanna do is drop another $100 on power tubes for this amp.
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Old 04-11-2015, 06:12 PM   #11571
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I hated the VK reverb so much I completely removed the tank. I got annoyed with it after realizing that I sometimes would bump the reverb knob when moving my amp and then forget to check it.

@Will Lane and Jason43
I think I'll get the 12AX7LPS and another TungSol 12AX7 so that I have no more stock JJs. The was manufactured in 2013, so they're probably not bad. But consensus seems to be the JJ tube don't bring out the right tones in this amp.

Anyone have experience with Sovtek 6L6WXTs? When my amp blew up, the tech put those in the power section. Prior to that, I had some medium Groove tubes in it, which sounded very sparkly and clean. These Sovteks just feel so soft in comparison... but the last thing I wanna do is drop another $100 on power tubes for this amp.
Try the TungSol in V1 if you don't already have one in there. I use TungSol 6L6's. They seem to work nice.
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:24 PM   #11572
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Clean the RCA plugs and jacks and make sure they are plugged to the correct connectors. Make sure someone hasn't tightened the mounting screws because the tank need vibration isolation from the amp. The tank should float loose.
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:45 PM   #11573
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I was messing around with some different mic setups and found one I really liked. Full signal chain is in the link. I'm using a stock VK 112 aside from the WGS Vet30

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Old 05-04-2015, 10:09 PM   #11574
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I was messing around with some different mic setups and found one I really liked. Full signal chain is in the link. I'm using a stock VK 112 aside from the WGS Vet30

https://soundcloud.com/dontonberry/tone-test
Wow, that sounds legit. Are you using the newer model VK? And by "stock" do you mean stock tubes? If not, what tubes do you have in there?
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Old 05-04-2015, 10:46 PM   #11575
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Wow, that sounds legit. Are you using the newer model VK? And by "stock" do you mean stock tubes? If not, what tubes do you have in there?

I'm using the older 50W VK112. And yeah the tubes are stock (Ruby power tubes, not sure what the preamp tubes are), no internal mods, etc.

I've spent so much time with this amp it's weird to go back to my old video from the first page and compare the tones haha
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Old 05-17-2015, 01:41 PM   #11576
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Hi there, does anyone know if the http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wi...m/wiki/messages is still mantained? I've just made two posts under name "mooras", not sure if anyone will ever read them.
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Old 05-17-2015, 02:04 PM   #11577
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Hi there, does anyone know if the http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wi...m/wiki/messages is still mantained? I've just made two posts under name "mooras", not sure if anyone will ever read them.
You would better off posting here. Many have done the mod you were asking about. You weren't happy with your clean channel after the mod and I am sure someone here can help you. Repost here!
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I have done it as well following 65sg instructions. It works, but comparing to the effect gain boost does on the lead channel, it seems a bit too loud to me on the clean one. I would like to know if there is a way to reduce the volume when clean channel is boosted? In my opinion the gain boost literally just makes the channel louder.
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Old 05-17-2015, 05:56 PM   #11579
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Hi everybody, I have done both the mesa and jcm mods and I really like the sound.
I was wondering if it would be possible to move the switching function(currently volume boost button) to an external foot switch. The volume switch is a dpdt switch where only one side is used. The other side has the most rear pin cut off and the other two are not connected. Furthermore, all three pins are connected with each other on the pcb with one trace(must be the ground). I assume it would be enough to replace the stereo jack footswitch socket with 7 pin din socket and attach the additional three wires that are currently connected to the volume boost switch. The rest would be done in an external footswitch.

One thing I am not sure about is the 750k resistor that connect the two outermost pins of the volume switch. Where would I have to connect it? Can it be also moved to the footswitch and be connected to the ground?

Another question: would it be be somehow possible to connect an indication led to one side of the switch so I could see which mod is activated. For example the led would go on when in mesa mode. I have done it already to channel switch as well to gain booster and it works fine. the leds are placed in series in->resistor100ohm->led->switch. What's your opinion on it guys?
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