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Old 08-25-2014, 05:08 PM   #12681
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Casual here. I used to read a lot of dystopian and post-apocalyptic stuff in high school (along with a load of Stephen King) but since graduating 3.5 years ago I haven't had the time or motivation to read much.

Recently tho i've found the time and am ~70% through King's Doctor Sleep and quite like it. 11/22/36 was a good one too, I read that when it came out.
I can't relate to any of you because the only stuff that holds my interest is Stephen King, and I don't care to branch out and try new things.
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Old 08-25-2014, 05:25 PM   #12682
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Casual here. I used to read a lot of dystopian and post-apocalyptic stuff in high school (along with a load of Stephen King) but since graduating 3.5 years ago I haven't had the time or motivation to read much.

Recently tho i've found the time and am ~70% through King's Doctor Sleep and quite like it. 11/22/36 was a good one too, I read that when it came out.
I can't relate to any of you because the only stuff that holds my interest is Stephen King, and I don't care to branch out and try new things.


I'm a massive King fan as well. Haven't read either Doctor Sleep or 11/22/36 though, but am probably going to order them in the near future. I do now have Mr Mercedes lying around, probably going to start that later this week/next week.

What are some of the books you really like? Besides the Dark Tower (well, what a surprise!) I always enjoy his short stories.
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Old 08-25-2014, 05:35 PM   #12683
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Sorry, I meant 11/22/63. Typo lol.
I've got Mr Mercedes as well, and seeing how it's the first in what will be a trilogy, and the second book comes out next year, i'll probably read it soon as well.

Not a fan of the Dark Tower series, but his short stories are pretty great. The books that are collections of 4 novellas are always quite good, Four Past Midnight and Full Dark No Stars mainly.
I dunno about favorites. I haven't read a ton (maybe around 25) of his, but favorites that I can remember would probably include 11/22/63, Full Dark No Stars, The Stand, It, Needful Things, Insomnia. Idk I tend to like nearly all of them. Gerald's Game made me a little queasy though.
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Old 08-25-2014, 05:47 PM   #12684
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Around halfway into Enders Game. First part of the book is great, but towards the part where
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I find myself starting to lose interest.

e: the
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section of the book was a slightly jarring shift, but I was really impressed by how Orson Scott Card accurately captured the concept and mechanics similar to today's
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Old 08-25-2014, 06:21 PM   #12685
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Is it fair to say that if I enjoy Murakami, there's a solid chance I would enjoy Marquez by virtue of their strong ties with magical realism?

Yes, Marquez is also a much stronger writer than Murakami so even magical realism connection probably wouldn't even matter
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Old 08-25-2014, 06:21 PM   #12686
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I hate the phrase magical realism
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Old 08-25-2014, 09:58 PM   #12687
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what do you suggest is a better term?
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Old 08-26-2014, 01:57 AM   #12688
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Fantasy, it's a type of fantasy. Magical realism was coined by people too embarrassed to call it fantasy. I get that magical realism originated in Latin America and it's sort of started as a literature of marginalised voices there but I think it's been appropriated in an elitist way to sort of say, 'yeah there's elements of the supernatural here, but it's still literary!!'
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Yeah, I agree. A lot of literature include fantastical elements that aren't considered magical realism, Kafka being an obvious example. It's still a convenient way to differentiate it from the fantasy that has elves and shit
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Old 08-26-2014, 02:59 AM   #12690
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yeah. i took a latin lit class a few years back and my professor spent a good day trying to explain the difference between fantasy and magical realism.
i remember thinking, "it's the same ****ing thing"

to me, it seems like the term exclusively exists to the latin american lit movement.
yet, it's still fantastical.
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Old 08-26-2014, 08:54 AM   #12691
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I like that "magical realism" exists because even though I can't clearly describe what it is, it DOES serve to differentiate between what it refers to and what most people think of when they hear "fantasy." I mean, magical realism does fall under the fantasy category by definition, but it is a distinct style of fantasy. I wouldn't limit its use to a particular literary movement even though that's what it's most commonly associated with. God dammit I wish I was better at being clear in my mind.

Murakami is VERY hit or miss for me. Even with the same novel. I've read Norwegian Wood 5 or 6 times and I only liked it on two non consecutive occasions.

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one hundred years of solitude is amazing. for a shorter read by same author, I suggest Of Love & Other Demons. It is exceptional.

btw, Marquez passed away this year. rip Marquez.



Have you read Aura by Carlos Fuentes? It's a magic realism novel and there's a cat on the cover...

I have not. Sounds like something I need to take a look at
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Old 08-26-2014, 09:39 AM   #12692
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Sorry, I meant 11/22/63.



I'm reading it right now. I'm not far along yet. I like the premise so far.


Outside of The Dark Tower series, I've only read maybe 3-4 other books by King.
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Old 08-26-2014, 11:49 AM   #12693
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I loved the different narratives used, especially the diary/memoir style writing.
I also rewatched the movie last night. I like how the changes they made don't necessarily interfere with the storyline of the book. If anything, I think the movie and the book complemented each other.

I'm reading the Circle by Dave Eggers at the moment. Anybody else read it? I'm only about 50 pages in, but's it's a really fun read, I think.


Yes it was great! Simon Vance did an incredible reading of it.
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Old 08-26-2014, 01:28 PM   #12694
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Re: magical realism

It might serve as a convenient term for those looking for that particular kind of fantasy, but it's definitely attached itself to this desperate attempt to belong to a more respectable literary sphere.

And yeah, it doesn't do any favours for 'fantasy' losing its LOTR association. I mean there's so much different, weird and surreal things going on there but it's viewed as this same monolithic thing.
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while on the subject of magical realism

i hate like water for chocolate
i hate the writing
i hate the plot
the narrative
the ending
the film's even worse
just hate it.
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Old 08-27-2014, 10:54 PM   #12696
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finished the tao of pooh today. decent little read. started beyond good and evil.
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I finally got around to ordering Albert Camus - The Outsider the other day. It arrived this morning and, as I had nothing better to do, I thought I'd read it this afternoon. I don't have much to say about it but wow, it's definitely deserving of its status as a modern classic.
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^!yeah it's a good 'un. One of the strangest protagonists ever
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It was interesting to read a book where the narrative is written through the perspective of a completely amoral protagonist.
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Yeah, it was hard explaining the plot to my dad cos he was all 'so he just shot this guy?' and I'm all 'yea but he's good tho cos the world doesn't get him and he's sort of passively rebelling', 'so he kills someone', just forget it dad
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