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Old 03-26-2013, 01:28 AM   #21
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But remember that TS is a beginner when it comes to guitar sounds. He might not know what kind of tones he's after. That's why I would buy a good modeling amp and not a tube amp (that I think you referred to when you said "an actually good amp").

The tweakers can get alot of different tones and they're tube.
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Old 03-26-2013, 02:36 AM   #22
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You might also look at Godin- I just checked on Thomann, and Session models go for just under 500€, and they have a b-stock Freeway for @550€. The regular price for the Freeway is @600€.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_dir...&viewMode=block

My personal feeling is that the Godins will be a little bit better than that Blacktop Strat, and they'll save you a few Euros you can direct towards your amp or other necessities. The Session has a humbucker in the bridge and single-coils in the neck. The Freeway, like the Blacktop, has a singlecoil sandwiched between humbuckers in the bridge and neck.

If you're not planning on playing with others in the relatively near future, you can save yourself a little more money by eschewing an amp and using headphones and a good portable amp/pedal modeling device (which is the way I went for 3 years before buying a Fender HRD combo amp):

Boss Micro-BR 4 track
http://www.guitarcenter.com/-i1169092.gc

Pocket POD
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Line-6-...875-i1173933.gc

Tascam GT-R1
http://www.guitarcenter.com/TASCAM-...306-i1401677.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/TASCAM-...473-i1402140.gc

Korg Pandora Mini
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Korg-Pa...754-i1746466.gc

Korg Px4
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Korg-Pa...554-i1124641.gc

Korg Px5
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Korg-Pa...715-i1387080.gc

Here is a visual comparison of (left to right) Tascam, my PX-5 and one of my Px4s to my old Aiwa cassette player:



With the exception of the Tascam, none of the devices I pointed out has decent acoustic recording capacity. What they DO have are features like tuners, metronomes, drum synthesizers, and digital amp & pedal modeling.

So with decent headphones, you can rock out like you were playing Texas Stadium. And yes, they are all about the size of an old Walkman.

The ones I own: the Tascam has the external mics, a phrase trainer (loop & slow down stuff for practicing), and takes SD cards. Both it and the PX5 can connect directly to your computer via a USB port. The PX4 is discontinued, but it can still be easily found. It is less powerful than the PX5, but, oddly, the PX5 does not have a belt/strap hook.

The ones I don't own: The Line6 PocketPOD is, I believe, the most popular device like this; the Boss might be the most powerful (and priciest); the Pandora Mini is the smallest (its about the size of a stack of business cards), cheapest, and least powerful.
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Old 03-26-2013, 05:23 AM   #23
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^ For the same price you could also buy a Microcube.

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The tweakers can get alot of different tones and they're tube.

But there are certain advantages in modeling amps. For example you hear how different effects sound. I'm not saying tube amps are one trick ponies but modeling amps are so much more versatile. You get lots of tones and it doesn't matter which genre you play. If TS buys a cheap and decent modeler like Microcube, it doesn't cost a lot and he can upgrade it pretty soon. He will save money and after having the Microcube for some time, TS knows which tones he really likes and then he can buy the amp he likes. The amp models are usually pretty close to the real thing. At least it gives you an idea how the real thing sounds like. One good thing in Microcube is that it's small and runs with batteries (same with those Pocket Pods and stuff dannyalcatraz recommended).
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:33 AM   #24
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For the same price you could also buy a Microcube.


Which is a good and valid option.

But a Microcube, AFAIK, does not fit in a guitar case, have a metronome, preprogrammed drum tracks, microphonic to card or USB direct to PC recording, and some of the other features that some of those devices do.

They're just a slightly different path; not for everyone, but perfect for some.
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