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Old 10-25-2012, 10:30 PM   #1
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Planning a Warmoth Build, Have Some Questions

I want to put together a warmoth guitar. I've got a few questions though. What I want to do is make a vintage strat. I'll use the vintage series guitar body, and a total vintage neck. The body will be swamp ash, and the neck and fingerboard will be maple.

What I'm wondering is if I'm getting the best for my money? I don't have the ability nor the tools to make a guitar myself. So are they good for the money compared to other pre built bodies and necks, or strats made by fender?

So far I've priced the body at $175 unfinished, which is lower than I can find most other places.

The neck, depending on if I go with maple, or flame maple, will be between $182 to $262, also unfinished. (What is the difference between tone and playability between maple and flame maple?)

So it seems pretty cheap to me, but when I searched the forums I keep seeing that warmoth is overpriced.


Also, since I'm finishing everything myself, when I do the neck do I finish the neck and fretboard the same way, or does the fretboard even need to be finished?

Finally, my budget is $700 for the whole build.
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:37 PM   #2
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I want to know where else you are looking. because 200 bucks for a body is extremely expensive. Warmoth is good quality but way too expensive for what it is.
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:40 PM   #3
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Stew mac is $194 http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bodies,..._for_Strat.html

All Parts is $265
http://www.allparts.com/Stratocaste...Body-p/sbao.htm

Where can I find a cheaper body that's as good as warmoth?
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:18 PM   #4
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Both of those places are well overpriced as well. Aftermarket stuff is much cheaper and usually just as good of quality. dont go for big company stuff.
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:19 PM   #5
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Where do I find aftermarket stuff? I'm a bit new to this so sorry if I'm slow.
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:47 PM   #6
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Its not Swamp Ash. But good luck building a guitar on warmoth for 700. Look into this body
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Old 10-26-2012, 12:00 AM   #7
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There's no way the quality and tone are the same/comparable for that, is there?

And so far every time I price out a guitar it's always come under $700.
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Old 10-26-2012, 06:23 PM   #8
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Can anyone offer anymore help?
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Old 10-26-2012, 06:34 PM   #9
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Carvin

You can pick your own woods, and bridge type, plenty of other options as well, comes with all top notch hardware - http://www.carvinguitars.com/catalog/guitars/gk1

Or you can just buy bodies and necks from them if you don't want a kit. They still offer plenty of options on the necks and bodies.

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Old 10-26-2012, 06:48 PM   #10
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Carvin is still similar in price to Warmoth, and does not have the options I want.
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What are your options exactly?

Finding a decent priced strat body isn't too hard, but finding one with a particular set of options for cheap might not be easy depending on what you want.
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:27 PM   #12
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First, you should check to see what Warmoth has in stock body wise. It's much cheaper to buy an already made body.

Second, there's quite a few other builders out there. You don't seem to be customizing the guitar or choosing exotic options, just a swamp ash body and standard strat routes. Check out musikraft, KNE guitars and mighty mite. An unfinished standard strat body should really be no more than $150 with shipping.

$175 is a little overpriced, but you're not talking about a small fortune of a difference between other builders, $25 is really nothing to lose sleep over. Warmoth really starts to get overpriced when you throw in finishing options and other customizing.


You might want to reconsider choosing a vintage body though. The pickup routes are pretty shallow, limits the choices you have pick up wise.

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Old 10-26-2012, 11:25 PM   #13
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I heard that Warmoth finishes are shit. They rub off or crack after a while. If you're going to finish the guitar yourself (spray cans I'm assuming) I'd recommend using Nitrocellulose Laquer. It's, at least in my opinion, the easiest to apply because it spray on smooth and wets the suface nicely and also it dries almost instantly so there is less chance you'll get runs if you over-spray a bit. It does not cure as fast at others but it does make for hard thin finish. I've had good results with Deft Clear Gloss. As for finishing the fretboard, if it's rosewood, you can use a rub on fretboard oil. Just google "fingerboard oil"
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I heard that Warmoth finishes are shit. They rub off or crack after a while. If you're going to finish the guitar yourself (spray cans I'm assuming) I'd recommend using Nitrocellulose Laquer. It's, at least in my opinion, the easiest to apply because it spray on smooth and wets the suface nicely and also it dries almost instantly so there is less chance you'll get runs if you over-spray a bit. It does not cure as fast at others but it does make for hard thin finish. I've had good results with Deft Clear Gloss. As for finishing the fretboard, if it's rosewood, you can use a rub on fretboard oil. Just google "fingerboard oil"


Nitro chips and cracks easily. Initial application is easier because each layer melts into the other, however it's not as durable as a poly finish. It's also pretty hazardous stuff, not that paint is eco friendly, but nitro is particularly bad.
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Yeah it's actually illegal to commercially paint guitars with nitro in California. And yes, each new application of nitro remelts the previous layer for the best adhesion. I've had good results with Deft. No cracking. It actually doesn't feel as hard of a finish as the crystalized poly finishes do.
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Old 10-27-2012, 10:42 AM   #16
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You might want to reconsider choosing a vintage body though. The pickup routes are pretty shallow, limits the choices you have pick up wise.



Really? I haven't decided pickups yet, but I was looking at some seymour duncan single coils. Would the rout cause a problem for those?
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Old 10-27-2012, 12:45 PM   #17
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Really? I haven't decided pickups yet, but I was looking at some seymour duncan single coils. Would the rout cause a problem for those?


Vintage body has 5/8" pickup depth, what is the depth on the pickups you want?
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www.byoguitar.com makes a nice fairly inexpensive strat body.
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