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Old 03-27-2012, 07:17 PM   #1
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Alternative to a Roland JC120?

I'm starting to look into getting a new amp to use exclusively for my clean tone, and at the moment I'm thinking about a JC120. It has built in stereo chorus and reverb which means I get to take two pedals off of my board, and the less pedals, the better, if you ask me.

The thing is, other than like a Fender Princeton Chorus (which is kind of cheap) I can't think of any amp with built in stereo chorus and reverb. I'd like to look at my other options before I shell out the cash for a JC120. Does anyone have any idea's? I'd prefer a 2x12 because I have room in my roadcase for a 2x12, but if you guys know of any heads that would work, I'd like to know. I don't care if its solid state or tube, I just want it to sound better than the crap clean channel in my 6505+, and it needs to have stereo chorus and reverb because I'm running out of room on my pedalboard!
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:37 PM   #2
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I have a Princeton Chorus, and I really like it for the cleans. The reverb and chorus sounds really nice, too. I don't know how it would compare to a JC120 since I've only played one once at a jazz festival, but its still a solid little solid state.
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:46 PM   #3
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I know of the Peavey classic chorus. Apparently it has good cleans but terrible overdrive, and I've seen them really cheap secondhand, but I've never played one and therefore don't know if its actually any good.
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:47 PM   #4
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What about the smaller JCs? As I recall there's a 60 watt with a single 12" speaker and a 70 watt with 2 10's. Last I saw they were a couple hundred dollars (I think $300 for the 70 watt).
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:04 PM   #5
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The JC60 is basically half of a JC120. Stereo at a gig is a bit of a wank imo. Even if all your FOH is coming off the PA like it should and you mike up both speakers the stereo is lost on everybody but those standing right in the middle of the venue. If most of your FOH is coming off the amp then it's lost on everybody but the people in front row centre.
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:11 PM   #6
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I doubt the built in FX are that good. I don't know though, I've never used one.

If you're just looking for alternative suggestions, try the Peavey Classic 50. Much nicer than a JC120, IMO. The JC120 sounds pretty sterile/boring to me.
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:16 PM   #7
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I doubt the built in FX are that good. I don't know though, I've never used one.

If you're just looking for alternative suggestions, try the Peavey Classic 50. Much nicer than a JC120, IMO. The JC120 sounds pretty sterile/boring to me.

The Chorus in a JC120 is sublime.

You're right though, they are a bit sterile. I guess that's why they make such a good Jazz amp. Myself, I'd take an old Fender Twin any day over a JC120.
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:44 PM   #8
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For clean tones, I prefer the most clean, cold, sterile sound I can get. I love the chorus on the JC120. I just wanted to know my other options first. As for stereo, I know that at gigs it probably wont matter, but it will for recording when I pan the mics out. Mostly I want it so I can switch from a clean channel with chorus and reverb to my 6505+ lead channel with no effects in one button press. Then I wont have to have reverb and chorus on my board (I never use them on the lead channel anyways) and that will save me from having to pedal dance. Right now, I have to switch channels, then turn my effects loop off as fast as I can. I don't know why Peavey didn't put those buttons next to each other on the footswitch!

But either way, my Peavey has an awful clean tone...
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:49 PM   #9
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Make a footswitch arrangement that does what you want. You could just mod the one you have so the switches you want next to each other are.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:23 PM   #10
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Make a footswitch arrangement that does what you want. You could just mod the one you have so the switches you want next to each other are.

That doesn't fix my terrible clean channel though. lol
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:25 PM   #11
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No, no it doesn't.
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Old 03-31-2012, 12:54 PM   #12
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You just need a flextone 2 or 3 xl . has exactly what your wanting
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:20 PM   #13
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i love my JC120, you won't be sorry if you end up getting it. but fender twins are pretty much the tube version of it. but if you do enough searching you can get a 120 for under $500. you can check out the jc77, its the original 2x10 amp, the jc90 is the new version.

I don't know if it's what youre looking for but another popular amp for clean tones at least in the jazz world is the yamaha g100. i'm not a huge fan of it myself but it's really not as bad as you might think, what's nice is you can get those amps for dirt cheap. just for an example but Mike Stern is known for using g100s exclusively
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:45 PM   #14
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The JC120 is in a league of its own but it aint cheap and it sure is heavy. It doesn't color your tone too much so it gets tagged as "sterile". If you want mean clean with the best Chorus and very good reverb then the JC is your only real choice. There are other great clean amps out there that are solid state or hybrids without chorus like the Music Man (Half tub/Half SS), the Gibson Lab5 (designed by Moog) the Yamaha even some of those Randall and Ampeg amps from the 80's are pretty good clean but no chorus. For me it's a Twin Reverb and a JC120 but they take up some space.
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:56 PM   #15
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Roland JC120! Its the King of Clean man. Just do it.

IDK if this has effects but the New Roland GA-212? Maybe? I will Look into it, same size may have what your loooking for for a lil less cash. Packs some 200W.

Edit. Only $200 bucks cheaper. Screw it go for the JC.
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The big Roland Cubes do a pretty good imitation of the JC.
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The big Roland Cubes do a pretty good imitation of the JC.

Good call! Stage volume?
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The 80 is more than loud enough. Even the 40W will do the deed if your drummer isn't a maniac with arms like a freeway off-ramp.
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Music Man 212HD 130 watt. amazing cleans, tremolo and a fully tube poweramp. amazing amps, i have had mine for a while now. ask gumbi, he kind of was the one to inspire me to look for one.

it takes pedals well, has the two modes (one with vibrato and reverb) the other set of jacks is just straight up.

its just like warmer JC120.

the only downside is for me i would prefer chorus over the vibrato, but the vibrato is fine and comes in handy for different things.
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