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Old 03-11-2013, 08:56 PM   #1
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Key help?

Can someone help me out? I am new at soloing and are writing in the key of A in the key of A the A notes are A, B, C#, D, E F#, and G#...so that means there is no note on the 15th fret high E string, but in the Mixolydian mode, 12th position... there is 15th fret on the High E.... Wouldn't this be out of key? Someone help me out? -Thanks!

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Old 03-11-2013, 09:05 PM   #2
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You're in the key of A, there is no mixolydian mode where you are.

Also: playing out of key really doesn't matter as long as it sounds good.
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Old 03-13-2013, 09:35 PM   #3
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So my influences (Randy Rhoads, Dimebag, etc.) Played out of key? If it sounded good?
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:34 PM   #4
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So my influences (Randy Rhoads, Dimebag, etc.) Played out of key? If it sounded good?


Of course they did. I've seen videos of Dime talking about playing "sour" notes just because they sounded cool. Playing out of key notes, depending on how & which are used don't always sound bad, just different.

About the mixolydian thing, if it was in key then it would be the same notes as the major scale & if that was the case then why would it need a different name? The way you're describing it is just a particular way of looking at the use of accidentals, not really a modal thing at all.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:16 AM   #5
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So my influences (Randy Rhoads, Dimebag, etc.) Played out of key? If it sounded good?


Not to sound like an ass - but find me a metal song that's written without the use of notes out of key.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:48 AM   #6
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I can't identify really when a song is out of key, i'm not that sharp aurally..

But i believe this solo in particular isn't played in any key. And it's one of my favourite solo's too

I'm sure there's a bunch of others out there. Not like i analyze every single song i hear ever.
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Old 03-14-2013, 09:17 AM   #7
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Can someone help me out? I am new at soloing and are writing in the key of A in the key of A the A notes are A, B, C#, D, E F#, and G#...so that means there is no note on the 15th fret high E string, but in the Mixolydian mode, 12th position... there is 15th fret on the High E.... Wouldn't this be out of key? Someone help me out? -Thanks!

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That is correct.

Usually if you hear a G natural being played in A major it's because the player is borrowing from the parallel minor key (A minor), not the mixolydian mode. Throwing minor pentatonic licks over a major-ish progression is pretty standard - all of Blues music is built on that sound.
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Old 03-14-2013, 09:49 AM   #8
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There's a section which allows you to map out the notes & it simply lists the possible scales.
http://www.all-guitar-chords.com/reverse_scales.php

D Lydian Diminished it is then. Whatever that is

Edit: **** it, it's chromatic.

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Old 03-14-2013, 05:05 PM   #9
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I'm sorry. but I can barely understand you guys, all this vocabulary I'm only 13 and trying to learn ad much as possible
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