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Old 08-13-2014, 12:42 PM   #4641
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Mixing these kind of vocals is pretty straight forward - EQ out the mud, smash it with compression, de-ess it, smash it again with compression and add some saturation in there somewhere if you want to thicken it up. Then buss that to a reverb and/or delay track that's set low in volume to give it more body.

Really, compression is key here, though. Just when you think you have enough - throw some more on it!
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Old 08-13-2014, 12:54 PM   #4642
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I completely agree on how important compression is. A dry, uncompressed growl track in a mix can sound like awful dog balls.

Matrix, long time no talk, man. Any thoughts on the getting that low nasty tone like Septic Flesh and others? It's definitely different than a standard false cord. it sounds tighter and smoother somehow.
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Old 08-15-2014, 01:57 PM   #4643
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Pushed my lows as low as they go without activating the space behind my adams apple, pushed with my stomach as hard as I could (That's what I do when I'm trying to use my diaphragm). EQ'd it. Compressed it quite a bit. ... Ended up doing a cover of "Reign Of Darkness" by "Thy Art Is Murder". I think it came out very well. I did put a lot of work into it.. So.. Opinions? Please? D:

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Old 08-16-2014, 07:51 AM   #4644
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I cant belive i never asked this yet, but does Matt Heafy of Trivium use false chord or fry? Im still not really sure what type it is when i hear a random scream.
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:01 PM   #4645
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Hey all, tone question. Does anyone have the slightest clue how the guy on the right gets his tone? The guy on the left sounds like a standard false chord, but the other guy has a super smooth tone and I'm really digging it. Can't figure out how to replicate it though.

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Old 08-18-2014, 10:28 AM   #4646
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The fat kid just isn't adding any voice to it. Both are fry.

The guy ion the right just has a better grasp of the tone and can add a touch of voice at the ginning of phrases.
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Old 08-18-2014, 11:19 AM   #4647
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Oh. Shows you how much I know. Haha I can never tell which technique they are using.
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Old 08-20-2014, 12:35 AM   #4648
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I was almost sure the fat kid on the left was doing false chord?

And for the guy asking about Matt Heafy, I think he does fry

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Old Yesterday, 11:35 AM   #4649
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Maybe, but it sounds too smooth for false cord. It doesn't have the rumble.

Heafy probably does fry but he has no clue. He's been asked in interviews.

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Old Yesterday, 01:12 PM   #4650
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I had a feeling he doesnt really know what he's doing. Reminds me of myself. Anyway, i noticed that no matter how much i warm up before i start screaming, the first couple of screams are always a bit painful. I takes me a while to get the hang of it every single time, and then its ok, but even after those few first screams, i already have some discomfort in my throat. It goes away after a while, even with the screaming, and after practice i feel normal really fast, like in a few minutes. But still, this doesnt seem right.

And i also noticed it hurts when i try to do some highs, and its much easier for me to do lower and medium pitch screams. Why is that?
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Old Yesterday, 07:32 PM   #4651
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Your moving lots of air through thinning folds. Additionally, you probably raise your larynx, and possibly topping out your voice box. Both can cause pain/discomfort.
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So I didn't get anyone saying anything on my last cover. ..Hrm.
Well. Still trying to figure out fry. Is what I'm doing here possibly fry? I know there's a lot of voice in it, but the parts where I do activate "something", is that fry? Or ANOTHER way of doing false chord?

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