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Old 07-13-2013, 11:09 AM   #1
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Can i run a bass cab and a guitar cab through a guitar head?

The title says it all. Just to clarify, i have a marshall mg100hcfx head and cab. However, the tone isn't bassy enough for me. To fix this i was thinking about buying a bass cab and making it a full stack. Would this sound good or would it sound like shit? Also, more importantly, would it work? I haven't decided on a bass cab yet so any advice or recommendations would be appreciated.
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:09 PM   #2
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It would work, but it might not give you the results you want. Bass speakers aren't designed to handle guitar frequencies. You risk damaging the speakers if you do it.

It would be easier to buy an octave pedal or something.
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Old 07-13-2013, 03:38 PM   #3
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Thanks for the suggestion, i didnt know that a guitar could damage bass speakers. I talked to the local tech and he said it would work but i may get a really muddy tone. I've tried octave pedals and they dont give me that sound that im looking for. Any idea on how to get a bassy sound that will make a stage vibrate and give a unique tone but still not overwhelm the band, especially the bassist?
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Old 07-13-2013, 06:30 PM   #4
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Thanks for the suggestion, i didnt know that a guitar could damage bass speakers. I talked to the local tech and he said it would work but i may get a really muddy tone. I've tried octave pedals and they dont give me that sound that im looking for. Any idea on how to get a bassy sound that will make a stage vibrate and give a unique tone but still not overwhelm the band, especially the bassist?



EQ pedal, humbucker pickups, and turn the bass higher on the amp.
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:56 PM   #5
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I could do the eq pedal. Do you recommend a specific eq pedal? And also i have a single coil strat so no humbuckers. Also, i've tried to turn the bass up and it completely drowns out the highs and gets all muddy.
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:03 AM   #6
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Bass speakers CAN handle guitar frequencies. The other way round causes problems. A lot of guitarists through history have used bass cabs- Josh Homme for example. Plus, the Fender Bassman, one of the most celebrated amps for guitarists, is, strangely enough, a bass amp.
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:26 AM   #7
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I could do the eq pedal. Do you recommend a specific eq pedal? And also i have a single coil strat so no humbuckers. Also, i've tried to turn the bass up and it completely drowns out the highs and gets all muddy.




Yes, the MXR 10 band is great.
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:05 PM   #8
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Well i guess the question now would be whether or not it would sound good and provide a wide range of frequency response?
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:11 PM   #9
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^^^ The main limitation is your Marshall MG head, which is not known for it's rounded pure tone. It should be noted also that if you add too much bass to your tone you'll fail to cut through the mix.
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:57 PM   #10
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I personally like the tone and i also always play through my boss gt100 pedal. On the pedal i can make patches that have a full frequency range, i believe up to 44.1k hertz. I want to be able to fully utilize that range.
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Old 07-15-2013, 01:53 AM   #11
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That 44.1kHz actually refers to what's called a sampling rate. Your GT100 is a digital based pedal, and yoir guitar signal is analogue. To turn the analogue signal into something that the pedal can use and process, the pedal has something called an analogue-to-digital converter (ADC). This takes tye analogue signal and turns it into digital. Now, digital doesn't work like analogue. It's made of discrete units, rather than the continuous nature of analogue. A good way to think of it is looking at curves in new and old games- on new games, a curve looks like a curve (it isn't really, but it looks like it, so go with it and pretend that it is actually a curve) while the same curve on the Sega Mega Drive is a series of steps. The more steps you have in the same line length, the smoother the curve becomes. So, back to the ADC. In order to get the digital signal to sound somewhat like an analogue one, the ADC takes 'snapshots', or 'samples' 44100 times a second. All those samples are put together, in order, to create the signal in the digital realm, but the curve will look like a series of ascending and descending stairs (if you zoom in enough, 44100 samples is a lot per second). Now, the more samples the ADC can make, in theory the closer to the analogue signal you get- CDs have a sampling rate of 44.1kHz, whilst hi-res audio can have 96kHz, 192kHz, even 352.8kHz and 2822.4kHz for SACD applications. So, SACD has 2,822,400 samples per second, compared to CD's/your pedal's 44100.

Hope that made sense.
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Old 07-15-2013, 02:37 AM   #12
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Yes you can. There is nothing is impossible. But, think that what kind of output you will get from this.
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Old 07-15-2013, 02:05 PM   #13
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That 44.1kHz actually refers to what's called a sampling rate. Your GT100 is a digital based pedal, and yoir guitar signal is analogue. To turn the analogue signal into something that the pedal can use and process, the pedal has something called an analogue-to-digital converter (ADC). This takes tye analogue signal and turns it into digital. Now, digital doesn't work like analogue. It's made of discrete units, rather than the continuous nature of analogue. A good way to think of it is looking at curves in new and old games- on new games, a curve looks like a curve (it isn't really, but it looks like it, so go with it and pretend that it is actually a curve) while the same curve on the Sega Mega Drive is a series of steps. The more steps you have in the same line length, the smoother the curve becomes. So, back to the ADC. In order to get the digital signal to sound somewhat like an analogue one, the ADC takes 'snapshots', or 'samples' 44100 times a second. All those samples are put together, in order, to create the signal in the digital realm, but the curve will look like a series of ascending and descending stairs (if you zoom in enough, 44100 samples is a lot per second). Now, the more samples the ADC can make, in theory the closer to the analogue signal you get- CDs have a sampling rate of 44.1kHz, whilst hi-res audio can have 96kHz, 192kHz, even 352.8kHz and 2822.4kHz for SACD applications. So, SACD has 2,822,400 samples per second, compared to CD's/your pedal's 44100.



Thanks that does make sense, would you happen to know what the frequency range of the boss gt100 pedal would be?
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