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Old 12-25-2014, 04:40 PM   #5621
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Oooh thanks, I'll check them out tomorrow, gotta add it on the list of synthpop to listen to. Watching TV with the telly right now though so later on
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Old 12-25-2014, 11:16 PM   #5622
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That was a really good episode

Writers were clearly watching a lot of The Thing, Alien and Inception.

But yeah overall it was a great episode, one of my favourites for a while especially considering it was a christmas episode.

To be honest, the line between homage and straight up copy/pasting references was crossed way too early for me. And after the third dream fake out, I just wanted to punch something. Ever since Inception, writers think that doing the "it's a dream within a dream, within a dream, within a dream!" thing is super clever, but it's so predictable by this stage, and it just allowed Moffat to cram more deus ex machinas into 15 minutes than usual.

Great performances by the cast all round, and it was an interesting enough idea, executed reasonably well, but so much of the episode just made me cringe and shake my head. The Christmas-y stuff I can ignore because I'm just a grinch, that's not the episodes fault, but between the constant waking up, and the plot being a bunch of other films pasted together, I just couldn't get into it
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Old 12-26-2014, 05:59 AM   #5623
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I thought the dream crabs were a good enemy idea. I didn't mind the references to The Thing, Alien etc. because it was so fun, and the girl had a list of all the films she had watched which was a cool touch - everything was created by their subconscious mind and after watching horror films like that at Christmas, those kind of things might be on your mind. I thought it was a very well done episode.
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Old 12-26-2014, 06:03 AM   #5624
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I liked it.

Moffat is decent at one parters. Just not whole series or multiple parters.
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Old 12-26-2014, 08:02 AM   #5625
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Pretty good ep, although a few parts annoyed me.
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Old 12-26-2014, 08:15 AM   #5626
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I still haven't seen the season finale because all of season 8 was so bad I just couldn't be bothered. So imagine my delight when it turned out that Danny died. Then imagine my dismay when he came back. I hated all of those parts, and I also hated the end.

I also hated that Moffat did that stupid thing again of acknowledging that something is a bit like something else, but then continuing to rip stuff off. Just because you make one gag about how the dream crabs are a bit like facehuggers doesn't mean it's suddenly a-ok for you to go on a rip off three or four other things. It just makes you seem like a smug prick that needs to be punched in the face.

The end would have been far more effective if Clara had in fact woken up, and it was the Doctor that kept dreaming about her. The point of that little sequence was to make the Doctor realise that he needs Clara, so why did she have to be unable to wake up too? It would have been much more emotionally affecting if the Doctor had woken up and gone to find Clara, only to find her doing absolutely fine, then he asks her to join him again. Way better. More emotionally and narratively satisfying. But no, Moffat has to make sure that Clara can't possibly behave independently of the Doctor and wake up on her own. She's just a woman, dammit!
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Old 12-26-2014, 08:24 AM   #5627
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Apparently the episode was written as a goodbye to Clara, old woman Clara would have been a really good end to her. But then she signed on so they had filmed the extra scene to keep her in the series.
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:55 PM   #5628
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So Clara isn't leaving?

I might be done with this show. Like I was so happy she'd be gone
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Old 12-26-2014, 05:44 PM   #5629
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I actually started to like Clara more this past season, so I'm not too bothered with her staying on. I think leaving after next season would be reasonable though.
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Old 12-26-2014, 06:04 PM   #5630
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But Capaldi will probably leave after that. I don't want him to have one companion
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Old 12-27-2014, 12:05 AM   #5631
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Pretty sure I read that Capaldi is signed on for at least series 9 and 10 atm, and yeah, the rumour is that Clara is gonna be leaving mid-season. Which I have no end of scorn for.
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Old 12-27-2014, 10:58 AM   #5632
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I'm pretty sure Capaldi agreed to two more seasons at the minimum, so yeah, we could dump Clara and still get a new Capaldi companion. It's possible he'll pick up a new one at some point next season, and then Clara will leave.
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Old 12-27-2014, 03:26 PM   #5633
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Finally got done watching it. Yeah kind of homaged to Alien and those other movies, so I found it good. Kind of cringed at the Christmas parts

Once again, I hated Clara in this episode. Didn't care too much for Danny Pink.
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Old 12-27-2014, 03:27 PM   #5634
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I spend most episodes looking at Clara's eyebrows to be honest
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Yea I'm fine with her staying since I get to look at her more
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Old 12-27-2014, 03:38 PM   #5636
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I hope I will like her more now she's over Danny it was honestly the whole Danny arc I hated rather than Clara on a personal level. It just brought out the worst in her.
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The danny bits in the xmas ep annoyed me alot tbf.

And I hope they surprise everyone and get a new companion fairly early next season. I do like Clara but can't see that much they can do with her, and sorta want to see a new person with Cap
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