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Old 01-15-2013, 09:04 PM   #1
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New amp decision

In 2-3 month, I'll have enough money to finally buy a new amp. I had a Peavey JSX but I accidentally dropped a lot of water on it and it died 4 months ago.

I'm mainly playing thrash Metal a bit of prog metal and instrumental rock. So I'm searching for Vai, Satch sound, but also Death Angel, Megadeth Slayer, Kreator, Sepultura, Death, dream theater to only name a few.

I'm also playing blues and Jazz, so it needs to be able to do cleans and crunchs well. I'm also searching power and intensity. I want that even if I play at low volume that the sound sounds full rich and powerfull. I don't want mudiness at all, i want that even with ****ing high gains notes are clear and no mudiness at all.

My main guitar is a Jackson dinky Firestorm HSS (the two single coil are Seymour Duncan Yngwe Mamlsteen sig) and I have a Dimarzio evolution in the bridge.

My budget would be 1500$ max, and if I can spend a little bit less I would be happy.
I dont mind combo.

I'm torned between 3 choices

1- Engl Screamer (engl are just ****ing Badass)
2- Carvin V3 (looks very nice and able to do what I want)
3- Carvin V3m (looks similar to V3, a bit less feature but I could get it in combo for around 700$)

I'm definetly a fan of ENGL, I tried all their model and they are awesome, but they are expensive. I never tried a Carvin except a Legacy III, which I liked.

I don't have a cab, so If I dont take a combo I need to buy a cab.

I don't mind go used, but I can't go higher than 1500$.

I live in the Gatineau Region in Canada (near Ottawa)

If you have other suggestions you can make them. Don't suggest Peavy, I tried them all at the guitar shop, and not that they are not good, I just personnaly don't like them.
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:18 PM   #2
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I would stay away from Engl if you want a more prog tone. Engl are very good at doing scooped Recto-style modern metal but in my opinion, are not up to the task compared to other amps.

Most Marshalls are pretty awesome all-around and would get the job done for prog metal. Death metal might require a boost.

Blackstar would have you covered, most likely, if you want a more Marshall-esque sound but with more versatility and gain.

Mesa Mark V is kind of the stereotypical "does anything" amp for prog metal players, but of course it's stupid expensive - might be able to find a used one in your budget though. Look into a Roadster if you want a more Recto-like sound but at an affordable price.

Peavey 5150/6505/etc. is the stand-by metal amp, but might be too "fierce" for you. I would recommend at least trying an EVH 5150 III however, because the cleans are very good on it.

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Old 01-15-2013, 09:38 PM   #3
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I would stay away from Engl if you want a more prog tone. Engl are very good at doing scooped Recto-style modern metal but in my opinion, are not up to the task compared to other amps.

Most Marshalls are pretty awesome all-around and would get the job done for prog metal. Death metal might require a boost.

Blackstar would have you covered, most likely, if you want a more Marshall-esque sound but with more versatility and gain.

Mesa Mark V is kind of the stereotypical "does anything" amp for prog metal players, but of course it's stupid expensive - might be able to find a used one in your budget though. Look into a Roadster if you want a more Recto-like sound but at an affordable price.

Peavey 5150/6505/etc. is the stand-by metal amp, but might be too "fierce" for you. I would recommend at least trying an EVH 5150 III however, because the cleans are very good on it.


I tried some Blackstar and they a good amp, but they were not intense enough. Not that they are weak, they are just not string enough. Last time I was at the shop I tried two different Mesa amps. A triple Rec and another one I don't remember, and I was not throwed on the ground by the amp, same with Peavey 5150.

I did not tried all Marshall amps and I'm not an expert of them, which model would you recommend?

I am going to take a look at the EVH.

Also, I dont play a lot of Prog Metal, and mainly old prog (sounds paradoxal), and mainly (almost only) Dream Theater. In fact, if the amp doesn't do prog Metal well is fine, I'll live with it. But it is the only compromise I'm going to make.

Thanks a lot for the suggestions
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:42 PM   #4
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I only have a comment on the V3 and V3m. I have heard that the distortion can be pretty fizzy sounding on them, which clearly isn't a very nice trait, so buyer beware.
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I only have a comment on the V3 and V3m. I have heard that the distortion can be pretty fizzy sounding on them, which clearly isn't a very nice trait, so buyer beware.


Good to know, thanks a lot
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Take a look at Hughes & Kettner Tubemeister 36. Great sounding amp and it's very versatile.
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Take a look at Hughes & Kettner Tubemeister 36. Great sounding amp and it's very versatile.


I just checked some on the internet and they look quite nice. If I can find a used Cab, it would fit in my budget, I'll consider it

Edit: CLeans and crunches are defintly awesome, but I prefer leads for the Carvin V3 and the ENGL
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I don't like it on a visual plan and the other guitarist with who I play is planing to get one and I don't want to have the same amp
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look nice but out of my budget
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look nice but out of my budget

My apologies, I could've sworn i've seen them cheaper..
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:38 PM   #14
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For Metal. Mesa Boogie sound the best to me. Who cares if your buddy is getting one. How many bands have nothing but Marshall.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:48 PM   #15
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used dual rec?
mark iv would be go-to here
engls are badass but they lack in mids for blues and stuff. however the screamer and thunder seem to have more than the other models
under budget, but peavey JSX?
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