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Old 03-19-2014, 08:57 PM   #1
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What Effects pedals should I buy? (metal-core/metal/heavy rock/pop punk)

I'm getting a pedal board for my birthday. I play mainly metal core stuff, but i also play heavy rock, and pop punk. a lot of the metal core things i play also have clean melodic guitar's so i want to enhance this and make them sound better
I already have a Cry baby, and a Compressor/Sustainer

I use a Marshall Avt150h with a foot switch. I like the sound i get from the OD on the amp, so I don't really need an over drive or distortion and i also like/use the reverb from the amp ( can toddle using foot switch)

I'm buying a Boss BCB-60 board. The pedals i'm thinking about buying are:
Boss CH-1 Super Chorus
Boss TU-3 Pedal Chromatic Tuner
Boss DD-3 Digital Delay Guitar

But I am wondering if anyone could think of a better set up, or something i'm missing/dont need. i don't have a budget, but i don't really want to spend to much.

Guitars i use are: a modded Ibanez GIO (with duncan invaders)
A PRS se single cut
A and a Jackson Kelly KE3


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Old 03-19-2014, 09:23 PM   #2
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Imo, ditch the Boss board, grab a Pedaltrain PT-2 or PT-1, depending on the size you want, and swap the Boss Chorus out for a TC Electronic Corona chorus. Thats what I use and I love it.

The DD-3 is probably fine, but you could also look at a TC Electronics Flashback, or a MXR Carbon Copy if you want a warmer delay. I like my DD-6.
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:31 PM   #3
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I have Boss BCB-60, bought it used, two guys owned it before me and they were playing gigs with it all the time, it's very durable and reliable, I'm very satisfied it.
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Old 03-20-2014, 01:56 PM   #5
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The DD-3 is probably fine, but you could also look at a TC Electronics Flashback, or a MXR Carbon Copy if you want a warmer delay. I like my DD-6.


i think it depends on what he'll be using the delay for- for those clean passages, an analogue (or analogue-voiced) delay might be better. for heavier distortion i reckon a digital would be better.

for the chorus i prefer analogue, assuming he wants to use it with a clean tone.
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I love my boss ce5 chorus ensemble. Great pedal for many diferent beautiful cleans (sounds more natural than the super chorus)

The boss dd7 is real nice. Has analog setting and 4 different delay speeds. Also an ok looper on it as well
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Can't really pick a better set of 3, to be completely honest.

Though I would highly recommend getting a regular board (not Boss presized shit) and branching out beyond Boss stuff.

We can help you out if you give us a total budget to work with.
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Old 03-21-2014, 05:57 AM   #11
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Can't really pick a better set of 3, to be completely honest.

Though I would highly recommend getting a regular board (not Boss presized shit) and branching out beyond Boss stuff.

We can help you out if you give us a total budget to work with.

This.

Boss pedals are nice, but there are far better options for the same price (especially if you go used) or for just a little bit more.
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Old 03-21-2014, 06:40 AM   #12
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The CH-1 does fine as an all-round chorus. It's not the bright and dramatic 80s chorus of the CE-5, nor is it the muffled and simple chorus of Poly/Small/Neo/Nano grunge fame. Ever listened to Seether? That is a CH-1.

The DD-3 is okay, but the more recent versions simply are better. There's a weird 'mojo' thing people credit the DD-3 as having, causing them to spend silly money on new-old-stock units, but the relaity is that the DD-3 has nothing special going on; every other DD pedal that came after it does the exact same thing and has better battery life, longer maximum delay time, more modes, etc. If you don't care about the new modes and only want a good, standard digital delay, there are still cheaper alternatives to the DD-3; it's really hard to screw up a digital delay effect, so even the cheaper companies knock this one out of the park.

The tuner's good, but it is just a tuner. Again, you can get the same thing elsewhere for less. I get why you'd want to stick to BossóI had the same Boss pedal board and filled it with many of the same Boss pedalsóbut when it comes to the basic stuff, they're overpriced.

The first thing I think you should consider is an EQ pedal. If you want to stick with Boss, the GE-7 is fine. An EQ pedal is going to be the most flexible and useful tool you can have. It can do anything from simply allowing one guitar to compensate for a lack of power (or too much power), through to totally reshaping the sound of your guitar, to being a rhythm/lead shift, or put it in your FX loop and reshape the sound of your amp entirely.

I'm also a fan of octave and harmony pedals for hard rock and pop-punk. You probably would get some use out of an octave pedal for metalcore, too. The EHX Micro POG is the best-tracking stompbox octave pedal around, and one of the few which works with chords. It has become the de facto 'lead' pedal for pop-punk and it's very common to see them used for bulking up rhythm parts in hard rock and alternative metal now. It's the one pedal I've bought and never thought about selling.

Personally, having had a BCB-60 full of Boss pedals before, and playing a mix of alternative metal, hard rock and pop-punk myself, the way I'd go for an all-round rig would be, in order:
Amp channel footswitch
EHX Micro POG
Boss NS-2 noise suppressor - one of the few times Boss do a better job and cost less than the competition. Invaluable, unless all your guitars have active pickups, your amp has really low noise and you only play in modern buildings with good wiring.
GE-7 or other EQ pedal set for a low-mids cut and high-mids boost, to get a cleaner sound out of any guitar without having to bother with coil splitting. Put it in the NS-2's own FX loop to stop it increasing hiss.
CH-1 Chorus, it is the chorus I use myself and one of the few pedals I've had, sold, and then re-bought. Stick it in the amp's FX loop; remember to get more long, high-quality cables so you can run things in the FX loop from the pedal board.
Delay. I need the layering of the DD-200, but if you want a simple sound then just grab a DigiTech DigiDelay and you're sorted. Put it in the amp's FX loop.
Volume pedal. Yes, after the delay and in the amp's FX loop. If you put a volume pedal before the amp, it effectively is a guitar output control. Putting it in the amp's loop allows you to use it to actually control the volume of all your sounds and use it for smooth swells properly.
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There are a handful of exceptional Boss pedals, I've got an old MIJ CE-2 for example. Some are good, but not exceptional and some are shite. Full spread really. But one thing about Boss, it aint gonna break. Ergonomically and structurally, they're faultless.
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Also if your looking at playing alone in your bedroom and such, check out the TC electronics Ditto Looper, really small and compact (pretty important once you get an actual board to put your pedals on) and works great, simple to use as well. Great for practice playing with another guitar and fun to play around with the overdubbing. Great tool to have. Now you can play all parts of songs!
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