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Get a New/Used Combo 6 28.57%
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:49 PM   #1
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New Amp Search, Head vs. Combo

Hey folks,

it's getting to be that time of year again and the item on the top of my wishlist is a new amp. I'v pretty much settled on a 6505+ and I know that with my birthday and Christmas both coming up soon I should have a little money to put towards a new amp.

My main question however is whether I should get the 6505+ 112 Combo or the 6505+ head. I looking to spend about $600-700. Obviously that will cover either a used or new combo, and what iv been seeing on craigslist in my area (Philadelphia) would get me close to the head but most likely leave me saving up for the cab.

Is it worth it in build quality, tone or whatever to go up to the head just because I can? I think the combo would suit me fine, I mainly play at home in my room at general listening volumes when my family is home and a bit louder when they are out, I don't gig so 120w and the added trouble of tracking down a cab seems like it wouldn't really benefit me to go that route.

Just looking for a general opinion on if its worth it to go after the head.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:02 PM   #2
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Perhaps consider the 212 on the used. They are made in America, so the build quality is better than the 112, and you don't have to worry about the cab (for the record, I own the 112, and it is pretty sturdy, and a little less cumbersome than the 212)
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:03 PM   #3
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If your amp is gonna be in the same place most of the time I'd go with the combo. You'd still have the option of an external cab.
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:43 AM   #4
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The used 212. That way you can use it right away, and swap out the speakers or add a cab down the line. Much better quality than the 6505 + 112 combo too.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:01 PM   #5
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the 212 sounds like crap due to the speakers in it, if you're going to get a combo get the 112 and then grab an external cab later.

i would however get a head and cab set up, its really not as much trouble as people make it out to be
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:53 PM   #6
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the 212 sounds like crap due to the speakers in it, if you're going to get a combo get the 112 and then grab an external cab later.

i would however get a head and cab set up, its really not as much trouble as people make it out to be


I don't think they are trouble, I just think its a pain to have an amp sitting around that I can't use because I'm saving up for a cab.
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:54 PM   #7
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Same money you could get a used 5150 212 60w combo....a better amp IMO.
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Old 11-16-2012, 03:37 PM   #8
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I bought a used 6505+ head a little while ago and never looked back. It's fantastic, plus even though it is heavy it's not as heavy as a combo would be plus it's less bulky too so it makes getting it to the studio easier. So I've voted used head.
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:55 PM   #9
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Approximately how much would it cost to retube a 6505+ Head? There's an add in the area for a head and cab for $600 but its a 2006 head that has never been retubed and the cab has some wear.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:20 PM   #10
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I'd vouch for the 5150 combo used. Built like a tank. Tubes that are still relatively new. You could easily get one for $550 +shipping. Check the classifieds here. I'm selling one. /shameless plug.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:59 AM   #11
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Seriously eying that add for Head and Cab at $600, but it seems too good to be true.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:12 AM   #12
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With the head you can put low noise JJ's in them. 5150/6505 combos suck. They are good if it's all you can afford but if you can afford a proper 6505 half stack that's what you buy. Even a 6505 on a 2x12 is better. If ever an amp could benefit from low noise tubes it's the 5150/6505 and they are too microphonic in a combo. A head is definitely the way to go if you can do it.
Find a half stack and over time you can fine tune it with tubes and speakers. Later on you can even upgrade the entire speaker cab to something like say, Mesa, Framus, Orange, etc. You want head.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:52 AM   #13
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^ this man makes a convincing argument, the head gets my vote.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:46 AM   #14
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With the head you can put low noise JJ's in them. 5150/6505 combos suck. They are good if it's all you can afford but if you can afford a proper 6505 half stack that's what you buy. Even a 6505 on a 2x12 is better. If ever an amp could benefit from low noise tubes it's the 5150/6505 and they are too microphonic in a combo. A head is definitely the way to go if you can do it.
Find a half stack and over time you can fine tune it with tubes and speakers. Later on you can even upgrade the entire speaker cab to something like say, Mesa, Framus, Orange, etc. You want head.


Yeah that's kinda the way iv been leaning, I just needed to hear it from somewhere else. $600 for a head and cab seems too good to be true though and I'm sketchy about it needing a retuning right away being as old as it is. The cab has two of the casters broken off, but as long as it works and gives me something to play while I save up for a proper cab then ill be happy.

Still looking for a ballpark figure on retuning the head if it did need it.
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:12 AM   #15
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:27 PM   #16
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Oh cool, that's actually not that bad. I thought it was going to be a lot more than that.
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