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Old 04-25-2013, 11:06 AM   #141
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nice, I got some soft shells and cheese and made quesadillas

also yeah unless you're growing your own food your a hippocrate

mmm, that sounds good
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:25 AM   #142
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I made some udon noodles today. Instead of throwing in some chicken or pork slices I threw some cubes of tofu.

Just because I felt like it.



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Old 04-25-2013, 01:18 PM   #143
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Even if you don't feel like eating meat, you are morally obliged to eat ducks . Ducks are all psychotic rapist anyway, and they all deserve to be slow-cooked and enjoyed with gravy.
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Old 04-25-2013, 01:23 PM   #144
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So? I can not abuse children and still unintentionally contribute to the suffering of children. That doesn't mean I might as well abuse children anyway.


All or nothing thinking like that is a bit ridiculous.


How?
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Old 04-25-2013, 01:29 PM   #145
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:47 PM   #146
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How?

Not stopping it, or taking part in a culture or practice that causes it (in the same way some people say watching porn might contribute to abusing women), buying sweatshop clothes etc etc.

It was just to demonstrate a point though, that's not to say that people do generally do that.
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:01 PM   #147
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i has no idea where this thread went but i shall re state my thesis

you can choose to not consume animal meat for many reasons, but if your reasons have anything to do with morals rather than health reasons, and you arent actually doing anything proactive about preventing animal slaughtering, you are being a bit hypocritical. you have to realize you arent helping anyone by not eating meat. so dont think you are doing a good thing
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:35 PM   #148
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For every animal my vegetarian cousin doesn't eat, I eat three, effectively eliminating the animal she saves, and killing an extra one.
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i has no idea where this thread went but i shall re state my thesis

you can choose to not consume animal meat for many reasons, but if your reasons have anything to do with morals rather than health reasons, and you arent actually doing anything proactive about preventing animal slaughtering, you are being a bit hypocritical. you have to realize you arent helping anyone by not eating meat. so dont think you are doing a good thing

No offence, but that's probably the worst thesis ever.
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:56 PM   #150
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Here's a thought.

Why are omnivores so freaked out about vegetarianism? Really? Ok, maybe we get a bit preachy at times, but seriously lets all just eat what the frick we want and get on with life.
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i has no idea where this thread went but i shall re state my thesis

you can choose to not consume animal meat for many reasons, but if your reasons have anything to do with morals rather than health reasons, and you arent actually doing anything proactive about preventing animal slaughtering, you are being a bit hypocritical. you have to realize you arent helping anyone by not eating meat. so dont think you are doing a good thing
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For every animal my vegetarian cousin doesn't eat, I eat three, effectively eliminating the animal she saves, and killing an extra one.
You're annoying as hell.
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You're annoying as hell.

That's the point. It's a very good strategy to use against vegetarians.
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That's the point. It's a very good strategy to use against vegetarians.

Why would you need to use a strategy against vegetarians? You came into a thread about vegetarianism. The best strategy is to stay out of the thread if you want to avoid vegetarians.

I won't be tasteless enough to make a joke about the food you eat making you stupid. Except that tasteless is a pun. Oh I don't know what to do now.
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Why would you need to use a strategy against vegetarians? You came into a thread about vegetarianism. The best strategy is to stay out of the thread if you want to avoid vegetarians.

I won't be tasteless enough to make a joke about the food you eat making you stupid. Except that tasteless is a pun. Oh I don't know what to do now.

Lol I don't actually do that though you guys. Although it is pretty funny
In all seriousness I don't care what anyone eats. But in my experience, you vegetarians are usually more judgmental and condescending to us non-vegetarians than it is the other way around. The worst we go is usually "Why are you a vegetarian? Meat tastes so good!" or "I could never be a vegetarian, I like meat too much". You guys go "oh you're immoral, do you know how the animals are killed? do you know how bad meat is for you?" etc.

(not saying you in particular but I'm just saying in general).
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:40 PM   #155
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So? I can not abuse children and still unintentionally contribute to the suffering of children. That doesn't mean I might as well abuse children anyway.


All or nothing thinking like that is a bit ridiculous.



Sleep easy at night knowing you did absolutely nothing to change the practices that evidently horrify you. Horrify you so much that you aren't even committed enough to even see your own measly consumer impact through to its logical end. All you lot are is big talk with no action.
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:46 PM   #156
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I'm not saying I totally agree with that. Obviously some people have to kill animals to survive. I'm lucky enough to live in America and have lots of foods to choose from, so I make a choice not to eat animal products. It's like saying, oh everyone chops down trees, so by not chopping down trees you aren't making a difference. But you're at least not adding to the problem.

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Old 04-25-2013, 06:49 PM   #157
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Sleep easy at night knowing you did absolutely nothing to change the practices that evidently horrify you. Horrify you so much that you aren't even committed enough to even see your own measly consumer impact through to its logical end. All you lot are is big talk with no action.

I can't tell if you're trolling or just stupid here.

A) as has been said many times (though sgtpeppers seems to be ignoring it), not eating meat DOES change practices that vegetarians might be opposed to. Impact as a consumer isn't "measly", it is in fact the best impact you can make against an industry.
B) as I also just said, that you can't achieve all your ends doesn't mean that trying to achieve any one of them is useless. I agree that people who support animal welfare shouldn't just oppose eating meat and not the rest, however that doesn't mean that not eating meat is pointless because of the rest.
If x y and z are all behaviours you think are wrong, that someone doesn't abstain from y and z doesn't mean it's not still good that they don't do x.

"Oh I see you murdered my youngest child! Well that was wrong, so you might as well have killed my other two kids too." - clearly that's just plain stupid (not to say eating meat is equivalent to killing someone's children, btw)

I think I can see what you're aiming at, but still all or nothing thinking is really ridiculous.

EDIT: actually sorry, "trolling or stupid" was probably a bit of a strong statement. But still, I disagree.
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:07 PM   #158
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I'm not saying I totally agree with that.

The alien's reasoning is sound to me.
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:08 PM   #159
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I'm not saying I totally agree with that. Obviously some people have to kill animals to survive. I'm lucky enough to live in America and have lots of foods to choose from, so I make a choice not to eat animal products. It's like saying, oh everyone chops down trees, so by not chopping down trees you aren't making a difference. But you're at least not adding to the problem.


I don't see a problem here: if there's a species that is capable of experiencing more pain or pleasure than us then it's priorities take precedence, just as ours take precedence over the chicken.
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