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Old 10-26-2012, 09:23 AM   #1
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Cant decide, Need more expert advice

So i have played acoustic for a month or so and im finally moving into electric. I have narrowed my choices to 2, either a Schecter Damien elite or a Schecter Synyster std. These both fit the kind of music i will be playing and i used to have a schecter bass so i know the brand. there are a few things im concerned about before i buy. The Damien has EMG Active 81/85 pickups and a thru bridge VS. the Syn which has a Floyd Rose and Duncan Designed HB-108 Detonaters. Which is better? My main concern is the Floyd Rose bridge. Im new and i dont wanna get over my head although i can say i will stay mostly in drop D tuning and not change very often. Can anyone help me out? I really want the Syn but the Damien is nice.
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Old 10-26-2012, 12:59 PM   #2
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Don't get anything with a trem as your first guitar. I've been playing for awhile and still hate dealing with trems. Get the Damien.
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Old 10-26-2012, 01:11 PM   #3
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How have you narrowed it down to such opposed guitars?

Trems arent a major pain if you can be bothered to work with them or don't use varied timings.
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Old 10-26-2012, 03:48 PM   #4
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There's a schecter Damien at my local guitar shop and I play it when I go there ad I love the feel. They have a few ibanez I've played but I always gravitate to the schecter again. I don't mind learning I just don't wanna break anything like if I'm changing strings.

I'm not opposed to other guitars but I want something that will fit metal and rock ect.
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Old 10-26-2012, 03:55 PM   #5
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There's a schecter Damien at my local guitar shop and I play it when I go there ad I love the feel. They have a few ibanez I've played but I always gravitate to the schecter again. I don't mind learning I just don't wanna break anything like if I'm changing strings.

I'm not opposed to other guitars but I want something that will fit metal and rock ect.


It would be best if you gave us a better idea on what genres of music you like. Metal and rock is very vague. Give sub-genres and maybe some main bands that you play covers of (if that's your interest at the moment).

Also, your looking into spending quite a fair bit of cash on a new guitar after just jumping in to the electric guitar world. Do you have an amp? What amp is it? If you don't have one, do you have a separate budget for that? and how much?
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Old 10-26-2012, 03:59 PM   #6
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I definitely agree with not getting a trem with your first proper guitar. My first proper guitar was an ibanez rgt6exfx and it's still the best guitar i've ever played to this day. I have a schecter synyster special infact and it's a nice guitar, but not worth retail price. If i could get it back for the price i bought it at i probably would.

The fact that you play metal (i assume you do, choosing those guitars and all) you'll most likely be changing tunings a lot over the years and having a fixed bridge makes that significantly easier.

I just don't think floyd roses are worth the effort unless you know what you're doing and will actually use the tremolo enough to justify buying it. Being new to guitar i highly doubt you will utilize the tremolo all that much so 99% of the time it's just gonna sit there.

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although i can say i will stay mostly in drop D tuning and not change very often.


I think most people would agree with me when i say you will change tunings. You're just starting out and your musical tastes are always going to change.
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Old 10-26-2012, 04:32 PM   #7
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Save the trem for later when you have a collection of guitars and the trem can be on a permanent guitar for one specific tuning.
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:19 PM   #8
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I wanna play bands like a7x, the devil wears Prada, blessthefall, Texas in July ect. I have a budget of about 250 for an amp that's separate from a guitar
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What's your max budget, and what are you planning on picking up for an amplifier?
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Old 10-26-2012, 06:17 PM   #10
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My budget right now is kinda what I can get away with before my wife gets mad. I'd say 700 maybe a bit more
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:13 PM   #11
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I wanna play bands like a7x, the devil wears Prada, blessthefall, Texas in July ect. I have a budget of about 250 for an amp that's separate from a guitar


Well I think you should focus the bigger part of the total budget on the amp and not vice-versa. Are you just interested in a low-watt level amp for house playing only or are you planning on gigging sooner or later?

If your only looking for something smaller, you could get a very cool 10-25 watt valve amp which would make any guitar sound great. Taking into account every aspect that affects your sound, from amp, to pick-ups, woods, etc. I'd say a good 70% or so of the overall sound is based on your amp. You plug in a Gibson relic in a solid-state 200-250$ amp and you'll be wondering why doesn't it sound that good. Plug a 150$ chinese squier affinity into a good quality amp and it'll shine on you crazy diamond.
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Old 10-26-2012, 11:10 PM   #12
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What would be a good amp? I'm not gonna be gigging for a while, a few years once my college career is over ad I can spend more money on the nicer equipment
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Old 10-27-2012, 10:45 AM   #13
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What would be a good amp? I'm not gonna be gigging for a while, a few years once my college career is over ad I can spend more money on the nicer equipment


Do you live in a apartment or a house? If you live at a house, you could probably crank up the amp a bit higher then normal and so you could think about getting this baby:

http://www.musicstore.de/en_EN/EUR/...-GIT0015547-000

These branded amps are built like tanks and with good quality. It's 40 watts, but being valve-powered, it may be a bit too much for apartment levels. But if you do live in a house, you could still push it enough for some nice overdriven sounds without being deaf, and you could gig with it later. It's also got a speaker output of 8-16Ohms, so if you want to buy later on a big cabinet you don't have to worry about being a new head, and just plug it in.

I don't know if you play anything besides those metal sub-genres, but this can produce the sound, while doing a lot more if needed. Check out the features on the link.
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:15 AM   #14
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If you are not intending to gig or play with others for a while, and ESPECIALLY if keeping the volume low is a necessity due to your living arrangements, consider doing without an amp and using a pair of good headphones with something liked these:

Boss Micro-BR 4 track
http://www.guitarcenter.com/-i1169092.gc

Pocket POD
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Line-6-...875-i1173933.gc

Tascam GT-R1
http://www.guitarcenter.com/TASCAM-...306-i1401677.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/TASCAM-...473-i1402140.gc

Korg Pandora Mini
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Korg-Pa...754-i1746466.gc

Korg Px4
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Korg-Pa...554-i1124641.gc

Korg Px5
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Korg-Pa...715-i1387080.gc


Each of those units is great for practice, having a list of features like a metronome & tuner, certain pedal/amp/cab combos, and certain unique variations like direct interface with a computer, acoustic mic, recording to a removable chip drive, phrase trainer, and so forth.

While that will cost the same as certain modeling amps, they are battery powered and small enough to fit in a guitar case, meaning you can practice anywhere, anytime.

And when you get around to playing with others, it will be usable with whatever amp you buy.
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