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Old 12-12-2008, 09:50 PM   #21
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^Sound like or act like a humbucker? Because on Strats the 2nd and 4th positions do this already, making the middle and neck or middle and bridge act like a humbucker, or hum-cancel.
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Old 12-12-2008, 10:33 PM   #22
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Old 12-12-2008, 10:34 PM   #23
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I am going to install a duncan sh-6 along with a 59 in my guitar, the sh6 has the 4 conductor wiring as shown on the duncan wirings, but the 59 doesnt. what is the diffference?
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Old 12-12-2008, 10:59 PM   #24
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I am going to install a duncan sh-6 along with a 59 in my guitar, the sh6 has the 4 conductor wiring as shown on the duncan wirings, but the 59 doesnt. what is the diffference?


To my knowledge 4 conductor just gives you the option to coil tape, do phase switching, etc. Mods that wouldn't be possible with just two wires.
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Old 12-13-2008, 02:06 AM   #25
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i was wondering if someone knew of or can make a diagram with

3 humbuckers
3 volume
1 tone
1 three way switch
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Old 12-13-2008, 02:12 AM   #26
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Ditto.

Thanks J-bomb.

So, haow to I put in that mods so I can whammy without the whammy bar? I grounede it wrong, my pots broke, and it isn't tube.
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Old 12-13-2008, 02:48 AM   #27
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^Sound like or act like a humbucker? Because on Strats the 2nd and 4th positions do this already, making the middle and neck or middle and bridge act like a humbucker, or hum-cancel.


No they don't. A humbucker is two coils wired in series like this:
GROUND -()()()()+ -()()()()+ OUT

Two single coils like on a Strat would be in parallel, like this:

GROUND -()()()()+ OUT
GROUND -()()()()+ OUT

The mod I speak of acts like a humbucker as opposed to on regular Strats.
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Old 12-13-2008, 03:02 AM   #28
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You didn't really say what it did, other than noise free. I just thought you meant it hum cancelled the pickups, which a strat does do. My mistake.
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Old 12-13-2008, 10:13 AM   #29
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Maybe add a post about the wiring differences between passive vs. active? Like the different cap and pot values? Other than that, great contribution dude! =]
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Old 12-13-2008, 01:10 PM   #30
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You could change it, or you could come up with funky things to do with it. I think you can wire a standard 5-way to auto-split two humbuckers. I'd have to sit down and think. I know you can auto-slpit the humbucker in a HSS guitar. Simple to do, too.


Very good point. I'll see what I can come up with.
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Old 12-14-2008, 01:49 AM   #31
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To my knowledge 4 conductor just gives you the option to coil tape, do phase switching, etc. Mods that wouldn't be possible with just two wires.


Actually, you can phase-reverse a two-wire pup (just swap hot and ground). Phasing refers to both pups, not reversing 1 coil in a humbucker. I've done that by mistake and it sounds terrible.

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On a Les Paul or something similiar, how do you ground to the bridge? I know there's some kind of shaft leading from the control cavity, but if I needed to reground to the bridge, how would I do that?

Seems like a kind of impossible task, as though that's something that'd get done before the maple cap was put on. This is just something that I think might be a problem if I ever try to repair my LP with a broken headstock.


There's a small hole drilled into the shaft where the bridge post will go. Before installing the bridge post bushing, a wire is inserted into this hole and held fast by the bushing.
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Old 12-14-2008, 09:15 PM   #32
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Okay, check it out, I dunno if this should go in this thread, but I have a really simple question. Here's the diagram for my Strat configuration, it was a SSS but I'm putting a JB humbucker in the bridge. I figured everything out, but look:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/suppor...=1h_2s_1v_2t_5w

The humbucker has red, white, silver, green, and black wires coming from it. The diagram doesn't differentiate between white and silver, so I'm not sure which one to solder to the Master Volume, and which one to tie up with the red wire.

So where do the white and silver wires from the humbucker go?
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Old 12-14-2008, 09:50 PM   #33
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Okay, check it out, I dunno if this should go in this thread, but I have a really simple question. Here's the diagram for my Strat configuration, it was a SSS but I'm putting a JB humbucker in the bridge. I figured everything out, but look:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/suppor...=1h_2s_1v_2t_5w

The humbucker has red, white, silver, green, and black wires coming from it. The diagram doesn't differentiate between white and silver, so I'm not sure which one to solder to the Master Volume, and which one to tie up with the red wire.

So where do the white and silver wires from the humbucker go?

The silver gets grounded to the back of the pot with the green wire. The white wire connects to the red wire.
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Old 12-14-2008, 10:44 PM   #34
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Silver=bare

Bare is ALWAYS grounded.

I say again, this thread IS for questions about wiring. Don't be afraid to ask!
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Old 12-14-2008, 11:06 PM   #35
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I have two ground wires coming from the body of my guitar:



One connects to that screw in the middle, and the other goes into a hole and I assume connects to my tremolo block or something. Do both of those get soldered to my master volume pot? I forgot to make a note of that before I disconnected them.
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Old 12-14-2008, 11:35 PM   #36
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Yes. It looks like that cavity is coated with shield paint. The screw/loop thingy is to ground that paint.
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Old 12-14-2008, 11:42 PM   #37
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Thanks! This project is on hold for now because Musician's Friend sold me a pickguard with screw holes that don't match the ones on my new pickup. But I think I've done a pretty good job so far...
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Old 12-15-2008, 05:51 AM   #38
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There's a small hole drilled into the shaft where the bridge post will go. Before installing the bridge post bushing, a wire is inserted into this hole and held fast by the bushing.


Oh, so it's not soldered to the bushing or anything? So, to replace this wire, I would need to remove the bushing, insert the wire, then hammer the bushing back in?
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Old 12-15-2008, 06:01 PM   #39
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Hi folks,
The diagram that asfastasdark posted is from my website www.1728.com/guitar3.htm
Yes, a Strat in positions 2 and 4 is a humbucker wired in parallel. However, the really full, long sustain type of sound (great for distortion) is a humbucker wired in series. In order to hear the difference go to my webpage and click on the link to the you tube video that demonstrates both sounds very well.

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Old 12-15-2008, 06:26 PM   #40
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I know I'm probably in the minority here, but if you buy a new Danelectro, they don't use the same wiring as the original. Originally the two pickups were wired in series. Here is a diagram of how they were wired back in the day. PLEASE NOTE: The switch is 3-way on/off/on, NOT on/on/on.

http://www.danguitars.com/user/59-D...g%20Diagram.jpg
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