z4twenny

^ best thing you can do in the beginning is find what songs you can sing with in the most natural and easiest sense and this will help you determine your most comfortable range. once you find that you can work on expanding your range.

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Ah, so tighten up the scream and sing through my chest? Well, if I can use your recording/tutorial to make a start, then I should be able to experiment. Thanks for the response!

gunsnroses0017

Well i have been practicing screaming from the chest, and then the next day i have a heart burn like pain in my chest. why is this?

z4twenny

^ probably because you're not doing it right

do you know how to sing from the diaphragm?

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Martyr's Prayer

Also, and z4tweny correct me if I'm wrong, but it's important to resonate when you're doing that kind of singing. I normally resonate with my cheek bones when I'm doing a Rise Against type of break up, which I think is similar to what you're going for.

Of course any kind of loud singing needs resonance anyways hah.

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axemanchris

Bass - C below the bottom E string to about C at second string first fret.
Baritone - G on sixth string third fret to about G at first string third fret.
Tenor - about C on fifth string (though often down to the baritone G) third fret to the high C on the first string, eighth fret.
Alto - roughly the same as tenor only in a female voice... a smidge higher...
Mezzo - G open third string to G at first string 15th fret.
Soprano - C on second string first fret to C first string 20th fret.

**all ranges approximate**

For more info on range, check: http://thebelcantotechnique.now-her...id=15&Itemid=30

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These bolded words scare me when people talk about singing.

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axemanchris

There are two possibilities:
1. The things your teacher is teaching you are good. You are doing things properly in your lessons, but when you try to put those things into practice, you do them incorrectly. You've just started. You might not be ready to do this independently yet.
2. The things your teacher is teaching you are bad for your voice and is assisting in you wrecking it.

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axemanchris

I thought I said this in the new updated thread here, but can't seem to find it, so I'll put it here.

That tutorial in your sig is, I believe, the *only* screaming advice I have heard on this forum that hasn't made me fearful of the inevitability of our youth inheriting the world.

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axemanchris

No prob. It is my pleasure to share.

The 'breathiness' of a person's voice comes from inadequate breath support. Ironic, I know, but nonetheless....

It's hard to describe exactly what to listen for in a singer singing from their throat, but in general terms, it will be a 'tightness' of sound, as opposed to an openness of sound. Compare Metallica or Soul Asylum (two entirely different vocal sounds, but each having that 'tight' or 'straining' quality to their voice) to Staind or Bruce Dickenson (again, two entirely different vocal sounds, but each having a very open, or natural sound to them.)

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axemanchris

NP.

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axemanchris

Maybe not the style you're looking for exactly, but a few easy ones:
-The Cars
-Tom Petty
-Sublime (what I got)
-Tragically Hip (a lot of it)

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axemanchris

I don't think there is a singer out there who can just fly in and sing their most challenging stuff without a warmup.

If I really want to sing to impress someone, (like Oh Holy Night, which is a terribly hard song to sing) I will rehearse something and warm up beforehand. But I don't do that for an informal gathering where I'm with family and friends are just hanging around and someone says, "hey, sing something." For that situation, I'll pick something easy that doesn't really require a warmup. (like middle-of-the-road classic rock or top-40 tune)

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esp1234

Is it normal for your voice to get tired? cause my voice starts out fine, but then it gets tired and starts struggling to make out the words. Is there anyway to fix this?

metal4all

Quick question, not really important....


I'm in no way a singer but when I listen to my favorite music I try to sing with it (like in the shower). Well, some days, after singing along, my voice will lose the low part to it. I can usually hit a low A fine but after singing some times I can only hit a low C (and if I try lower, my voice strains and cracks).

Again, if you have better things to do, it's cool. I'm just curious.

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Superstrat101

so i was testing my range and I need a bit of clarification. I can comfortably go from the low G on the 6th string to the high Bb on the 6th fret 1rst string. Does this make me a Baritone or Tenor?

Also, would anyone happen to know the vocal ranges of these singers?

Bon Scott - AC/DC
Brad Delp - Boston
Joe Elliot - Def Leppard

Thnx

metal4all

^I'm no expert but that seems high. Are you sure that's not falsetto?

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JakdOnCrack

It's actually entirely natural. When you sleep, fluid builds up in your vocal chords. When they are swollen like this, you will have a lower range and lose your high notes. As the day goes on they will drain and you may lose your lowest notes, but also gain high notes. For example, in the morning I can hit a low Ab 3 ledger lines below the bass clef easily, but really struggle to get the D above middle C. When I was performing "Messiah" the other night with my school choir, I belted an F for the first time in my entire life. It was because it was around 8:30 and I had been singing for an hour and a half, so I was fully warmed up.

So yes, that's entirely normal to lose your low notes as the day progresses.

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That's pretty cool. Thank you

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