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Old 12-29-2008, 06:15 AM   #1
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Question Bass amp to handle low a

So I've read that not all bass amps can handle the low A string (like with the ADADG tuning). So is there any way how to know if an amp can handle it (like does the wattage or size of speaker determine this?).

I'm going to start with bass soon and was considering to buy the Line6 LowDown 300pro or another lowdown.

Can these handle the low A?
What would other optins be for versatile bass amps which van handle the low A?
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:31 AM   #2
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A line6 bass amp won't even be able to handle a Low B, I think you should look else where for bass amps. While their guitar amps are alright, the bass amps are HORRIBLE.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:34 AM   #3
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I have a fender rumble 100 and it handles low A ver well, even at high volumes
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:56 AM   #4
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My Ashdown Five Fifteen handles it quite well, at high volumes too.
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Old 12-29-2008, 07:00 AM   #5
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I'm pretty sure it's the speakers and not the amp. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

You should probably get atleast a 1x15 to handle the low A.
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anything with at least a 115 should do the job




and yeah it doesnt have much to do with the amp
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Old 12-29-2008, 07:57 AM   #7
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Eh i dont know about 15's, my rumble could barely handle a low B
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Eh i dont know about 15's, my rumble could barely handle a low B

Then maybe its time to drag out "el whappo grande"
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Ah weres the 30", were is the 30"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats pretty impressive though.
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Eh i dont know about 15's, my rumble could barely handle a low B

But my 15" handles it perfectly. It will vary massively amp to amp.
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Thanks for the answers
so to play mostly metal and hard rock and to handle the low A (with a budget of around 600) which amp would be better of the ones mentioned (for band practice and small gigs) :
fender rumble 100 or ashdown five fifteen or maybe something else?

Also for effect, I just want an overdrive and wah to begin with, is it better to buy a separate wah and overdrive pedal or a multieffect like the Digitech bp200 (again, to handle a low A)
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Dear god, you have to be kidding.
"Alright" to describe a line 6? The only people I have ever known to think line 6s are 'alright' are 13 year old metalheads who can't play guitar and strum open D on the insane setting thinking they are the new kerry king.
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so to play mostly metal and hard rock and to handle the low A (with a budget of around 600) which amp would be better of the ones mentioned (for band practice and small gigs) :
fender rumble 100 or ashdown five fifteen or maybe something else?

Also for effect, I just want an overdrive and wah to begin with, is it better to buy a separate wah and overdrive pedal or a multieffect like the Digitech bp200 (again, to handle a low A)


I would invest the money for effects into a better amp. Something like an Ashdown MAG 300 or a Warwick Sweet 15 is far better than either of the two you listed. I can vouch that the Warwick can handle down to a low B very well, and I'm sure the many owners of MAG 300s on this site will vouch for the Ashdown.

If you are dead set on effects, or for later on, any bass specific ones should do fine. Some guitar ones could be fine, just as some bass ones can cut a touch of low end, but look at bass specific for starters.
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Dont get eitheir of those amps, Look into hartke and ashdown mags.
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:08 PM   #15
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Low A is very close to the threshold of human hearing. That's 22.5 Hz, and we can hear 20 Hz (if lucky).

Why bother?

The average listener won't be able to hear it, won't want to hear it, the speaker at a venue or on the listener's home system won't produce it, or it will be buried underneath the chugging A string of a guitar in the same tuning.

Of course, that's just my opinion, but if you want to take up bass, why not start at basics and see if you need the extra low-end.
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Actually, that A is 27.5 Hz. I think you are thinking of low F/F#.
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"Alright" to describe a line 6? The only people I have ever known to think line 6s are 'alright' are 13 year old metalheads who can't play guitar and strum open D on the insane setting thinking they are the new kerry king.


Oh come off it. Line 6 amps aren't that bad. They're not that good, but they aren't that bad. You just need to work a bit to get decent tone out of it, which people seem to be loathe to do these days.
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Oh come off it. Line 6 amps aren't that bad. They're not that good, but they aren't that bad. You just need to work a bit to get decent tone out of it, which people seem to be loathe to do these days.


I tried out a lowdown 150. It had possibly the most bland tone I have every heard. No midrange or cutting power at all. And I was using an ash Warwick through it. It seemed to be a thunderbird in amp form. Just the fundamental, an the flattest, most bland midrange you can imagine.
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It's hard to get a good tone out of them, true. But I'm getting there. It's definately not an exciting tone, this is true. However, I wouldn't say it's "bad". Just a bit... Rumblish.
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It's hard to get a good tone out of them, true. But I'm getting there. It's definately not an exciting tone, this is true. However, I wouldn't say it's "bad". Just a bit... Rumblish.


Considering a lot of people on the forum slay the bland tone of the thunderbird, I think it's a bit unfair to let line 6 off.

On a positive note, the effects on the amp are pretty good. It's just a shame the normal tone has the cutting power of a balloon.
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