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Old 08-25-2015, 02:59 PM   #1
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(newbie) question about 2 songs

On this tab: http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/b/bob_dylan/man_in_the_long_black_coat_crd.htm

yr supposed to play a Em, G, D and Bm. But is there any way to play this without barring? Cause my fingers just wont do that and I really wanted to play this song. A capo would ruin the other chords, no?

And on http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/b/bob_dylan/million_dollar_bash_crd.htm there is a capo on 4th, yet it needs a F, which again - without barring - needs a capo on the 1th fret...

This is so newbie, but any help would be appreciated. Is barring just an absolute must on any rock song?...
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Old 08-25-2015, 03:12 PM   #2
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a capo would not help you here. You're going to have to practice the barre for the Bm and F, there is no avoiding it.
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Old 08-26-2015, 11:51 AM   #3
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Bm- been a long time since ive played a bm chord that wasnt a barre, so correct me if im wrong everyone.
2
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x
Keep practicing barre chords. These 2 ways will only get you so far.
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Old 08-26-2015, 01:23 PM   #4
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^What he said. Smaller chord shapes can be a substitute but if you want everything sounding right you've got to put in that work and learn barres.

For what it's worth, that F shape can quite easily be expanded to

1
1
2
3
3
X

And there's also the Hendrix grip, which shouldn't really be used as an absolute substitute for barres and isn't really manageable on some guitars, but can be useful in many situations:

1 - Index finger
1 - Index finger
2 - Middle finger
3 - Pinky
3 - Ring Finger
1 - Thumb (over the top of the neck)
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Old Yesterday, 12:39 AM   #5
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But is there any way to play this without barring? Cause my fingers just wont do that and I really wanted to play this song. A capo would ruin the other chords, no?

This is so newbie, but any help would be appreciated. Is barring just an absolute must on any rock song?...


No, you can't play it adequately without barring. The chord voicing would be altered and it would sound different. Use the capo in the spot that was described in the transcriptions that you listed.

Your fingers can barre those chords you just have to practice it and build the finger strength. (Unless you have some type of physical defect that I am unaware of.) I would recommend taking a deeper look into why you are unable to barre. If you think you might be doing something wrong then look for a lesson and make sure you are using a the proper fingerings. Make sure you are also keeping your thumb on the back of the neck and not at the top. If you are using the correct fingerings and you have your thumb at the back of the neck then it is likely a strength issue. Give yourself time to practice and you will be able to get it down.

(Issues with changing chords is a coordination issue, that is remedied with practice.)

No, barring is not an absolute must for all rock songs. Barre chords are, however, a basic technique and you will come across them more times than not. The fact of the matter is you can not play the instrument to it's full potential without barre chords. You completely limit your range during a composition if you can only play in an open position. Do not look for short-cuts and do not simply give up because you are unable to do something. The only way to get better and to succeed is to continue trying.
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You could just play a b power chord instead of the full bm chord, but as nacho cheese had said, you're going to come across these chords a lot so it's best to sit down and learn them, but until then you can use the easy versions.
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just bite the bullet and get on practicing your barre chords. you're gonna have to take off the training wheels eventually, and the sooner the better on stuff like this.
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Probably the worst thing you can do as a guitar player is avoid learning barre chords. You will need them, if not now then definitely later. The sooner you learn them the better off you will be.
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