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Old 11-18-2011, 09:45 PM   #481
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Hey guys how about my piece of Symph Death Metal (or something like this)?
No ideas for the rest of the song yet

Feel free to steal some riffs if you want, it don't really fit into my band's style
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Old 01-18-2012, 04:01 PM   #482
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This is the song I'm currently working on. Any advice is appreciated.
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Old 01-20-2012, 04:13 PM   #483
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Take a look and tell me what you think
Hadn't been into theory for too long when I made this
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:01 AM   #484
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:06 PM   #485
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Just wrote a little classical piece today, it's sortoff in a minuet form but not really.

It's very simple, A-A-B-B-A-A'/C form, no modulations or advanced techniques whatsoever but some nice little ideas imo.

I didn't spend a lot of time on this, so there are still some awkward spots here and there, for example the ritardando in the B section that is only supposed to be there in the second repeat.
And in general the repeats should have some more variation, but I was to lazy to copy everything.

I'm still pretty proud of it, although it's far from perfect.
Form has always been one of my weak points but this one is not too bad.


I'd love to hear some opinions on it, it's only 1:40 long.

Minuet In C Sharp Major

I'll post the sheet music later if anyone cares.
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Old 02-10-2012, 08:49 PM   #486
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Just wrote a little classical piece today, it's sortoff in a minuet form but not really.

It's very simple, A-A-B-B-A-A'/C form, no modulations or advanced techniques whatsoever but some nice little ideas imo.

I didn't spend a lot of time on this, so there are still some awkward spots here and there, for example the ritardando in the B section that is only supposed to be there in the second repeat.
And in general the repeats should have some more variation, but I was to lazy to copy everything.

I'm still pretty proud of it, although it's far from perfect.
Form has always been one of my weak points but this one is not too bad.


I'd love to hear some opinions on it, it's only 1:40 long.

Minuet In C Sharp Major

I'll post the sheet music later if anyone cares.


Sounds great, but the tone man... I personally would've done the coda different, perhaps a more 'dramatic' ritardando?
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Old 02-11-2012, 05:40 AM   #487
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Sounds great, but the tone man... I personally would've done the coda different, perhaps a more 'dramatic' ritardando?


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What's wrong with the tone? It's just the standard piano from Finale Printmusic.
It probably sound a little too bright because of the stupit key signature.
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Old 02-11-2012, 08:22 AM   #488
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Yeah, it's too bright IMO, but the actual music is great, I'd like to see the score!
Any reason you didn't notate it in Db major?
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Old 02-11-2012, 11:10 AM   #489
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It's more of a joke than anything really.
I coudn't decide between D,E and C major and after a while I got sick of my lack of commitment and just went with C# major.
I also thought it was kinda funny to write a simple minuet in the most awkward key possible.

I'd definitely suggest playing it in C natural major though
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Old 02-11-2012, 11:41 AM   #490
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I'm no expert but there are a lot of fourths in the bass and IMO it makes everything sound rather 'clunky' and not delicate enough for the pretty melody above it.
Maybe this was intentional...?

Good job though - with some tweaking it'll be nice
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Old 02-11-2012, 12:03 PM   #491
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I think transposing the left hand up an octave would make it sound clearer and would actually be playable (There's some stretches in there which aren't psychically possible).

Watch your voicings too, an ideal voicing in this style for the Vb chord in bar 2 would have G and D in the right hand, doubling the leading note as you have done here isn't stylistically appropriate.
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Old 02-11-2012, 12:28 PM   #492
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I'm pretty glad I'm suddenly getting lots of feedback after one week of nothing.

I might make a corrected version tonight considering all the things you guys mentioned.

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I think transposing the left hand up an octave would make it sound clearer and would actually be playable (There's some stretches in there which aren't psychically possible).

Watch your voicings too, an ideal voicing in this style for the Vb chord in bar 2 would have G and D in the right hand, doubling the leading note as you have done here isn't stylistically appropriate.


haha yeah I kinda noticed these stretches way to late..
The ones in m4 are worst ones... maybe Franz Liszt could have played that somehow.
That's too bad because that was my favorite thing in the piece.

And why is that inappropriate? Do you mean the left hand? Because I don't see how G and D sound any better in the melody.

Edit: My god how did I not notice how much of an unplayable mess it was when I wrote it?

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Yes sorry I meant the left hand.
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:42 PM   #494
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I have to write a string quartet for school, no real guidelines on content other than that. I've never written anything like this before so I was wondering if any of you guys have any advice for composing in the classical style? (We've been mostly looking at the classical period if that helps). I mostly just write rock/metal stuff, so I feel a little overwhelmed I want to make sure I write something that's actually good. :p
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I have to write a string quartet for school, no real guidelines on content other than that. I've never written anything like this before so I was wondering if any of you guys have any advice for composing in the classical style? (We've been mostly looking at the classical period if that helps). I mostly just write rock/metal stuff, so I feel a little overwhelmed I want to make sure I write something that's actually good. :p

To be honest, there's no way to explain Classical composition in a single post, or give you enough time to practice the style since I'm assuming this is due within a couple weeks or something. The intricacy and complexity of the style sort of prevents that.

The best advice I could give you for a quick assignment would be to listen to a lot of Classical music with score in hand to look for conventions in the composition. You can also take a few of the most important elements of Classical music and work them into your own score.

I'll ask you before I just tell you straight out since I think you'll benefit more: what have you learned about the styling of Classical music?
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:27 PM   #496
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I have to write a string quartet for school, no real guidelines on content other than that. I've never written anything like this before so I was wondering if any of you guys have any advice for composing in the classical style? (We've been mostly looking at the classical period if that helps). I mostly just write rock/metal stuff, so I feel a little overwhelmed I want to make sure I write something that's actually good. :p


Really no further guidelines? As in lenght or form?

You probably have to write in the classical Haydn form I guess?
(I. Sonata Form Allegro, II. Slow Movement, III. Dance, IV. Fast Rondo)
Or do you just have to write a short single movement piece for string quartet?

You should definitely stick to a traditional sonata form approach. Take your time when picking your main themes, try to make them interessting but still keep them simple so you have room for variation in the development section.
Take a close look on your themes before starting to write the development.
Play around with them for a bit: transpose them to different keys, try how the melodies sound in inversion or even in retrograde, change the rhythm, create sequences with the main phrases and whatever else comes to mind. After you have an idea what works with your theme, you should start thinking about what exactly you want to do.

I like to write my piece down in text form as if I was analyzing it first, but you don't need to do that. Just make yourself a litte 'plan' so your piece has a clear and coherent structure.

Can you ask more specific questions?
I don't want to write you a complete guide on string quartetts right now.
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Thanks for the tips guys, I actually have a few ideas of what I'm going to do now. Also, this is just high school music class, I'm not like a composition major in university or anything, so we haven't done a great deal of advanced stuff (I'm probably one of the most theoretically knowledgeable people in my class and I'm still pretty nooby, haha). Its just a short single movement using Sibelius, yeah, so I don't think we're expected to produce a masterpiece or whatever. But this area of music really interests me so I wanted to know what experienced guys like you would recommend.

Um...heres a more specific question you could probably answer in a forum post Where did you guys learn to write this kind of music? You both sound like you know what you know your stuff :P Is there any books or websites you would recommend or is it something you'd have to learn in a university class (I mean, writing classical stuff in depth rather than just covering basic harmony)
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Its just a short single movement using Sibelius, yeah, so I don't think we're expected to produce a masterpiece or whatever. But this area of music really interests me so I wanted to know what experienced guys like you would recommend.

Well, 505088K gave you a good outline on what to do in terms of basic tips. Essentially, it's about developing a motif (or motifs, if you want to get more intricate) throughout the movement, making sure everything is structured properly in terms of melodic length and cadences, the use of gradual dynamics as opposed to terraced dynamics, and so forth - the list can really go on and on. For a short, simple assignment, I'd say that if you develop a solid motif, work with it throughout the movement, and pay attention to structure and cadences you'll be set.

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Pretty much everything I know about composition and music in general is stuff I've worked independently to teach myself. Knowing theory is definitely helpful, but most of the time it's been about listening to music I enjoy and working on incorporating those ideas into my own music. For stuff that had a score available, I'd just grab the score and study it, often times while listening to the music. In my opinion it really boils down to trying it yourself; it's one thing to understand how certain musical conventions work, but actually putting them into practice is invaluable experience.

That being said, nothing I generally write is in a Classical style, but you get the idea.
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Um...heres a more specific question you could probably answer in a forum post Where did you guys learn to write this kind of music? You both sound like you know what you know your stuff :P Is there any books or websites you would recommend or is it something you'd have to learn in a university class (I mean, writing classical stuff in depth rather than just covering basic harmony)


Thanks^^

Nah you don't have to go to a special class for that at all.
I gained most of my knowledge through books (check your local library!), the internet,
and years of listening, analyzing and performing classical music.
I'm still pretty terrible though, because after all knowledge != skill.

I can't really recommend you any books because you probably don't speak german.
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My first arrangement and first piece I completed with orchestral instruments:

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