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Old 11-10-2014, 09:24 PM   #1
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which amp is good for..

Hi, currently window shopping for an amp which is fairly cheap that packs a lot of punch. I pretty much play in my studio (shed) so I don't require anything overly fancy. I keep getting drawn to the blackstar id core 20 or the true valve power range. I am also pretty taken by the Orange tiny terror head and im wondering if they would work well in combo together. I don't really understand much about how to set up the amps or anything so some advice here would be useful, is it worth adding the head?

Also does anyone have any experience with these amps? Or would you guys recommend anything else? I play blues mainly and it looks like the weapon of choice is going to be a gretsch g5420t.

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Old 11-10-2014, 09:40 PM   #2
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Old 11-10-2014, 10:00 PM   #3
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Jet City JCA2112rc would be a decent choice.
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:53 PM   #4
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I live in the UK. I don't seem to be able to find a store with the Jet City amp!
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:02 PM   #5
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thomann

or there's a UK jet city online store http://www.jetcityamplificationstore.co.uk/
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Old 11-11-2014, 04:51 PM   #6
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Dave, thanks for the link, I've heard of thomann. Is it better to go for a valve/tube amp? I am fairly careless when moving stuff around and hear they break easily but is there a HUGE difference between valve and non valve?
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Old 11-11-2014, 05:55 PM   #7
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Tube amps are not fragile



There can be a huge difference.
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Old 11-11-2014, 08:25 PM   #8
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http://www.valvepower.co.uk/18w_amp.htm

IMO, a clone of the best blues amp ever made (with the possible exception of the JTM45). For you situation, it's the better choice over the JTM45 even.
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Old 11-11-2014, 10:51 PM   #9
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Tube amps are not fragile



There can be a huge difference.


I would have dropped that fellow from a considerably greater height soon after.
Tube amps are often fragile in much the same way that a Les Paul's headstock is fragile. It all tends to be anecdotal. Drop a Marshall head on its bottom and it might be fine. Drop it on its end and you'll find the chassis bent and the transformer sitting at an angle and tubes with the glass at a different angle from the piece that's connected to the socket.

I've watched tube heads tumbled from a moving truck onto a highway (in a road case). The road case was destroyed, the cabinet seriously shattered but the amp/chassis itself turned out to be just fine. Had another of the same kind of head dropped off the top of a full stack and had a major fixit bill. Depenz.
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Old 11-11-2014, 11:22 PM   #10
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Let's not forget that tubes were used successfully in tanks and jet fighters. Have you ever tried to actually break a tube on purpose? I have, it's not that easy. You gotta hit 'em pretty hard (except if you hit the little dick on top of preamp tubes). I've wanted to bust a 6L6 to get the base off it and it took a hammer to do it.
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Old 11-12-2014, 12:10 AM   #11
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Tube amps are not fragile



There can be a huge difference.

i physically cringed right when he threw the amp
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Old 11-12-2014, 12:58 AM   #12
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Let's not forget that tubes were used successfully in tanks and jet fighters. Have you ever tried to actually break a tube on purpose? I have, it's not that easy. You gotta hit 'em pretty hard (except if you hit the little dick on top of preamp tubes). I've wanted to bust a 6L6 to get the base off it and it took a hammer to do it.


i had a bad tube and was board thining what to do with it.

i dropped it on a wood floor. fine.
tile, fine.

then i remember that i was going to the old family farm the next week and i set it on a chunk of wood and shot it with a .22 target pistol. needless to say it broke it, but that was fun.

i haven't ever dropped an amp, but the ones that run laps i build new shells (head cases) for a few of them.) and they get bumped around and ran into, never had a problem.
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Dave, thanks for the link, I've heard of thomann. Is it better to go for a valve/tube amp? I am fairly careless when moving stuff around and hear they break easily but is there a HUGE difference between valve and non valve?


it sort of depends on who you ask

it also depends on your definition of "huge"

it also depends on exactly how careless you are

i prefer tube

you also need to be aware of retubing costs, and rebiasing costs (not all tube amps need to be biased when changing tubes- the valvepower one cath linked to doesn't)
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i physically cringed right when he threw the amp




Don't worry, it's just a Crate Palomino.






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