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Old 02-16-2009, 12:34 AM   #1
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paranoid solo tone

I was just wondering if any of you guys knew what gear Tony Iommi used in paranoid to get that fuzzy, raspy tone that is heard during the solo. It is extremely distinct and I don't believe I have heard anything close to it an any other song by any other band.

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Old 02-16-2009, 12:38 AM   #2
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fuzz box? I'm just going by your description
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Old 02-16-2009, 12:41 AM   #3
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i dont know. although it is EXTREMELY hard to get that, im not sure how to desribe it but clear(?) sound. its a fuzzy sound but yet very clear and crisp.
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Old 02-16-2009, 12:48 AM   #4
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you have to keep in mind that its played by TWO guitars at the same time in the recording, as with all of Tony Iommi's recordings, he doubled up and played two slightly different solos alongside each other, other than that use a flanger aswell
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Old 02-16-2009, 12:51 AM   #5
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I get pretty close by just using my neck pickup with high gain.
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Old 02-16-2009, 01:12 AM   #6
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well, uh. Chop a couple of fingers off. cover them in plastic and leather, and try playing the solo like that.
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Old 02-16-2009, 01:18 AM   #7
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isn't there an octave harmony effect as well? like a blue box or something?
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Old 02-16-2009, 01:40 AM   #8
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but that was how long ago? couldn't it have just been the equipment back then? i'm not talking the whole sound, but a part of it. but a mild distortion sounds right, maybe try a digitech grunge pedal and put the grunge real small.. i'm about to try it tomorrow, can't wake up the old people.
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isn't there an octave harmony effect as well? like a blue box or something?


i think you may be referring to the sound that he gets through the recording technique i posted about earlier, i relistened to the Paranoid solo and you cant hear it as good as you can in stuff like Ironman solos, but, it is definitely there, the two guitars playing slightly different from each other
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well maybe the fuzz he has is producing lots of overtones or something.... i sort of hear the double tracking, maybe the two tracks are out of phase...
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I read somewhere a ring modulator was used on 1 guitar to get that tone.
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Old 02-16-2009, 10:25 AM   #12
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Old 02-16-2009, 10:26 AM   #13
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orange stack with a treble booster
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orange stack with a treble booster

Wrong on the amp.

Iommi didn't/doesn't like Orange amps.

But anyway: SG neck pup (either P90 or Humbucker, IMO, it sounds better with the P90)>Rangemaster Treble Booster>Laney Klipp.

You can get close with an AOR or a GH50L or GH100L.

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1. That video sounds nothing like the album.
2. Iommi's current sig amp is a Laney GH100TI.
3. Tony Iommi has been using Laney amps since Black Sabbath recorded Black Sabbath in 1970.

'The amplifiers are done by a company in England called Laney's, whom I originally started out with on the first albums we did. They started off much the same way as us 25 years ago. We were like the first ones to use their amps then. We used to use them on tours. I thought it was a good idea to get together with them and re-develop a more up-to-date amplifier of what I know that I need now. Through the years of working with different amps, I knew exactly what I wanted. So, I got together with their technicians and I think we've come up with a really good amplifier. '

http://www.classicbands.com/TonyIommiInterview.html

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the solo on that video is NOTHING like the album solo! the main parts are the same but all the bends and notes are different.
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I read somewhere a ring modulator was used on 1 guitar to get that tone.


I read that too. Think it was a wikipedia article about ring mod
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the solo on that video is NOTHING like the album solo! the main parts are the same but all the bends and notes are different.

Ever heard of improvisation?
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yes i have but still. to play it different in the muci vid. and the recording...
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