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Old 02-22-2009, 09:24 PM   #1
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My Jackson DKMG project

after trying to sand down the back, and having great difficulty

as seen in this link: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/foru...ht=dkmg+jackson

i started picking at a chip in the finish and it started coming coming off. so i got a razor blade and basically peeled away the rest of the finish instead of trying to sand everything off and possibly sanding thru the veneer top.
also, chipping and peeling off the finish creates a lot less dust to breath in.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b...3D720/ry%3D480/

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http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b...3D720/ry%3D480/

i thought the maple would be more blond underneath. i'll try sanding it down a bit and then re-staining it with something else

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Old 02-22-2009, 09:30 PM   #2
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it was probably dyed black before they put the laquer over it, sanding might help depending on how think the veneer is
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Old 02-22-2009, 09:31 PM   #3
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leave it like that, it looks awesome!
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Old 02-22-2009, 09:37 PM   #4
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you are one patient dude
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Old 02-22-2009, 09:40 PM   #5
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I'm also going to strip off the plastic binding on the fret board and the headstock. gonna strip off the black veneer on the face of the headstock and glue on a flamed maple veneer to match the body.
then i'm going to re-do the fret board binding with maple, and the headstock binding with rosewood

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Old 02-22-2009, 09:42 PM   #6
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Looks pretty cool. Put some clear on it.
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Old 02-22-2009, 09:51 PM   #7
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Looks pretty cool. Put some clear on it.


i want to do a satin finish. i don't really like the high-gloss look. it always gets smudgey
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Old 02-23-2009, 03:10 AM   #8
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just rebuilt and tuned it back up
i'm going to be re-doing the headstock and the binding all around

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b...3D720/ry%3D480/

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i can't be bothered with flipping the pics the right way
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Old 02-23-2009, 03:29 AM   #9
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you are one patient dude


actually, i was finding that the sanding technique was not as effectual as i'd like it to be so i really just started hacking at the finish with a sharp object in order to chip it off in large chunks
hahahahahaha

so no, i wasn't really that patient.
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Old 02-23-2009, 03:58 AM   #10
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It's lookin' good, sure it'd be better with a classy blue or green stain, but it looks nice.

Good luck with the binding.
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Old 02-23-2009, 03:59 AM   #11
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Just leave it like that, but if you do insist on finishing it, sand it smooth with like 600 and then use some tung oil on it.
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:33 AM   #12
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Just leave it like that, but if you do insist on finishing it, sand it smooth with like 600 and then use some tung oil on it.


Or, dont oil it and sand it to like 2000 grit, seriously shiny wood that isn't finished is amazing :]

Or oil it and do that
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Old 02-23-2009, 05:22 AM   #13
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so now i'm stripping the back and i'm thinking of doing the purple to orange burst on the back, but its an alder wood?

btw, i want the kind of finish that these guitars have:
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Or, dont oil it and sand it to like 2000 grit, seriously shiny wood that isn't finished is amazing :]

Or oil it and do that


what do you mean? the top is a veneer. i don't want to bust thru it. what happens with 2000 grit?

edit: you dudes don't even know how i'm going to do my headstock. if i can do what i'm thinking of, it will flip you out!

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Old 02-23-2009, 05:33 AM   #14
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2000 grit sand paper is ultra-ultra-ultra fine, 1000 grit and higher are normally used for polishing plastics and getting your finish really shiny, but when you do it to just wood or oiled wood, you get a really smooth and kinda shiny gloss to it, without the clear coat stickiness
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:28 AM   #15
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Well sand smooth with 600, oil, sand with 2000. Super slick and super awesome wood!
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:35 AM   #16
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Man that looks great!
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:39 AM   #17
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you know why it was hard to sand? You still had everything on the body, you were actually supposed to take everything off
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Old 02-23-2009, 09:50 AM   #18
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you know why it was hard to sand? You still had everything on the body, you were actually supposed to take everything off


but at least i still got to play it while i was working on it... up to a point when i had to get between the pickups and the bridge and the neck, and under the knobs.
it needed a new set of strings anyway.
i'm going to http://www.mccurdyguitars.com/
and he's going to hook me up with a piece of flame maple for my headstock. i'll probably bring my guitar with, and take some video too.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b...3D720/ry%3D480/

obviously i've got some work to do on this side

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Old 02-23-2009, 01:59 PM   #19
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how do you plan on getting the binding off?
and i love the chipping off idea. brilliant
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:21 PM   #20
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This is off-topic really, but what sort of 500k pots do you have (assuming those are what you're using for your Seymour Duncan pickups, and also assuming they came with the DKMG EMG-HZ models)? I've looked many places for suitable 500k pots that would fit in a Jackson guitar, but have been unsuccessful.
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