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Old 08-05-2011, 07:49 PM   #241
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Don't push yourself for the sake of pushing yourself. Learn songs that you want to learn because you think they sound cool, not because they're going to "push your technique".

Any song you don't know is a gap in your knowledge so learning any song is making you a better player than you are now.

If he wants to work on this technique why shouldn't he practise pieces that help him develop it? Maybe he wants to work on some original songs and he has ideas on his mind that are above his current skill level. Maybe he is looking for practise material that's not as tedious as running the chromatic scale up and down.

Practising technique is never bad, and doing it early is better than doing it late. Maybe he just wants to get it out of his way.

EDIT: To actually contribute, Symphony X has a known cliche-ish song called Sea of Lies which has several good ideas. If you've played for only 3 years it can be quite a challenge though. Michael Romeo doesn't really have easy solos, so can't help you too much with that.
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Old 08-05-2011, 08:09 PM   #242
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If he wants to work on this technique why shouldn't he practise pieces that help him develop it? Maybe he wants to work on some original songs and he has ideas on his mind that are above his current skill level. Maybe he is looking for practise material that's not as tedious as running the chromatic scale up and down.

Practising technique is never bad, and doing it early is better than doing it late. Maybe he just wants to get it out of his way.

EDIT: To actually contribute, Symphony X has a known cliche-ish song called Sea of Lies which has several good ideas. If you've played for only 3 years it can be quite a challenge though. Michael Romeo doesn't really have easy solos, so can't help you too much with that.


If he has ideas in his head that run beyond his technique he should transcribe those and then learn them, thus pushing technique in the name of music. If he wants to practice technique with something other than chromatics he's in a thread that has tonnes of songs for that. If neither of the above then what's the point?
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Old 08-26-2011, 05:05 PM   #243
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is it worthy if i learn Racer X--Technical Difficulties/Metal Dog song for 2 years?

to be highlight: I'm still amateur. Just started playing guitar.
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Old 08-26-2011, 05:10 PM   #244
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To be honest I very much doubt you could do it in a reasonable time scale but there may be things you can take away from it. Do you want to work on something specific or are you just looking to improve in general?
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:17 PM   #245
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Surely the number of the beast is a better song for downpicking than legato.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:16 PM   #246
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Surely the number of the beast is a better song for downpicking than legato.


Different parts of the song dude, riff is good for downpicking and the solo is good for legato.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:49 PM   #247
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that's so good. thanks
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Old 09-13-2011, 06:16 PM   #248
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Different parts of the song dude, riff is good for downpicking and the solo is good for legato.


ah yes i suppose so. pretty relentless downpicking throughout though. Aces high by iron maiden is an awesome song for legato, infact, most iron maiden songs are good for legato practice.
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Old 09-13-2011, 08:12 PM   #249
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ah yes i suppose so. pretty relentless downpicking throughout though. Aces high by iron maiden is an awesome song for legato, infact, most iron maiden songs are good for legato practice.


Really, realistically, if you learn almost any of the songs on the list they'll work one many things about your playing and it would be impossible to make an exhaustive list for any technique, we have to keep these things at least somewhat brief
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Old 09-19-2011, 03:13 PM   #250
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Yeah, yup, you got it, and yes uh-huh.

21 days, 42 days, 85 years - the longer the better. Classical pianists are a wicked example for where repetition of great habits will get you. Many concert players in the 1800's played the music of Bach for weeks before a concert. Even though they had repertoire by various other composers on their programs, the music of Bach covers the ground because it contains sooooo many useful techniques, harmonic progressions and a wack of other good stuff, not to mention very similar techniques in a lot of his works, be them countless. Always look the very best to who you will imitate.

This is a bit out there, meaning that a lot of the comments in this forum are not classical-related, but related nonetheless. Exercises by Abel Carlevaro are excellent for a guitarist of any genre (speaking of classical!).

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Old 10-05-2011, 04:09 AM   #251
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Been awhile since anyone posted in this one.

Anywho, even though I'm mostly fixated on my alternate picking at the moment, I wouldn't mind being able to work on creating a vicious right hand capable of something like this guy:



At about 00:14, he starts with a pretty nice riff that emphasizes a lot of downpicking followed with alternate and string skipping. Now, I have a terrible ear and so trying to work on such a technique from this song would be close to impossible. Not only that, but I know it would take me a while to build it up that quickly. Anyone else have any other suggestions that might be able to get me started on it?

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Old 10-13-2011, 02:22 PM   #252
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I learned Technical Difficulties to train the alternate picking,
I can play the song (including the solo) at 70-75% of the original speed, BUT i have problems with the SEXTUPLETS when I play at FULL speed, especially in the lower strings.

At full speed that part is "unclean", I can't hear every note as it has to be.
I'm training trying to increase the speed gradually but when I surpass the 75% it becomes muddy.. except if I play sextuplet with legato, but Iin this case I should use alternate picking (right?).

Some advice? thanks
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Old 11-21-2011, 09:26 AM   #253
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Good luck!

But yeah, thanks for reposting this!

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Old 11-24-2011, 05:33 AM   #254
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How the heck am I supposed to fix the bleeding in the ZIP files? I want to do the sweeps straight through but I can't with all teh bleeds.
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Old 11-24-2011, 07:01 AM   #255
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How the heck am I supposed to fix the bleeding in the ZIP files? I want to do the sweeps straight through but I can't with all teh bleeds.


Look at the exercises, learn them and just play them to a normal metronome? You shouldn't need to hear the audio to play it correctly if you already know what you're aiming for...
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Old 11-24-2011, 07:18 AM   #256
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I was going to play them as one exercise, instead of individually.
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Old 11-24-2011, 07:54 AM   #258
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I was going to play them as one exercise, instead of individually.


You still know what sound you're going for, the problem (or more specifically lack of it) is exactly the same.
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You still know what sound you're going for, the problem (or more specifically lack of it) is exactly the same.


Not when the measures are bleeding into each other

My guitar isn't exactly "intonated" anymore, it just helps to have them. Even switching to 6/4 will still make the measures bleed into each other.
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Not when the measures are bleeding into each other

My guitar isn't exactly "intonated" anymore, it just helps to have them. Even switching to 6/4 will still make the measures bleed into each other.


1 - Set up your guitar.

2 - Re-write out the tab.

3 - Stop sucking.
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