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Old 03-28-2009, 07:36 PM   #1
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The Bogner Club

I went to the Almighty "Gear Thread" page to check out any Bogner threads to perpetuate Bogner-ish topics about... Bogner.

To my surprise, there wasn't one!

So here it is. I assume that everyone would know the topic (Reinhold's magic, of course).


So here's the lowdown:

Metropolis- Suited more towards jazzy and bluesy styles of music. Has a unique "Schizo" knob that changes up the tone.

Duende- Vintage rock tone, and lots of it. Cleans like Fender, crunch like Marshall Plexis. I have a 30 watt head, and it can do metal (up to around Megadeth style gain) with an OD. Can do hard rock very well.

Shiva- I've never tried it, but from what I hear, it has amazing cleans and can do some hard rock along the lines of Van Halen.

Uberschall- Total nuclear meltdown of high gain. It could eat your mother. Nuff said.

Ecstacy- Like the Shiva, I've never played it. But it costs a ton, so it bette sound good.

Alchemist- Line 6's newest... er, Bogner's attempt to make a low priced amplifier. It is actually pretty nice for the cost, and is somehow able to capture a Bogner-ish tone.

So, DISCUSS!

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Old 03-28-2009, 07:40 PM   #2
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I can say that the Shiva has amazing cleans as you pointed out (very Fender-esque) but it's gain is enough for thrash and alternative metal. After all, Jerry Cantrell uses one live.
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Old 03-28-2009, 07:49 PM   #3
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Old 03-28-2009, 07:55 PM   #4
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Someday, I hope to become a member of this club.

I can say that the Shiva has amazing cleans as you pointed out (very Fender-esque) but it's gain is enough for thrash and alternative metal. After all, Jerry Cantrell uses one live.


I wish I could have gotten a Shiva, but I snagged the Duende for $1200 at a blowout sale. It had a tear in the tolex, but I think it was worth it.
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Old 03-28-2009, 08:03 PM   #5
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i had an uberschall. it was too honky for me (not in a racist way, it had a weird honk)
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:53 PM   #6
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Everytime I play the Alchemist I like it for it is. Both head/cab and combo. Features, like built in delay effects and 20-40w switchable, are nice. Not sure if it is worth the price. $1200+

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Old 03-28-2009, 10:56 PM   #7
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i had an uberschall. it was too honky for me (not in a racist way, it had a weird honk)

im sensing a lie here.............
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/foru...d.php?t=1095621
if you had an Uberschall then you 'll have more than 500 punds for a new amp if you sell it...........
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Old 03-28-2009, 11:14 PM   #8
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the XTC is a seriously addictive amp, I have a 101B, and it's pure secks. Fender like cleans depending how you dial it on the green, just about any classic crunch to hot rodded Marshall on the blue, and a big thick chunky sounding high gain red channel. The Red is chewy and crunchy, with tons of gain. It makes leads just sing, probably one of if not "the" best lead amp I've ever played. Just enough compression to make notes sing and make you feel like you are cheating when you play, but still retains the dynamics of the tone. Think AIC's Dirt for the red channel. It has that crazy signature Bogner growl and crunch in the midrange that just seperates and blooms. It really sounds like more than one amp when you hit a big chord and let it ring out. Every time I hear that album, I want to go home and play it, lol. I don't even play a lot of what the amp was designed for, but it's so good sounding, I can't let go of it.
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Old 03-29-2009, 08:57 AM   #9
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the XTC is a seriously addictive amp, I have a 101B, and it's pure secks. Fender like cleans depending how you dial it on the green, just about any classic crunch to hot rodded Marshall on the blue, and a big thick chunky sounding high gain red channel. The Red is chewy and crunchy, with tons of gain. It makes leads just sing, probably one of if not "the" best lead amp I've ever played. Just enough compression to make notes sing and make you feel like you are cheating when you play, but still retains the dynamics of the tone. Think AIC's Dirt for the red channel. It has that crazy signature Bogner growl and crunch in the midrange that just seperates and blooms. It really sounds like more than one amp when you hit a big chord and let it ring out. Every time I hear that album, I want to go home and play it, lol. I don't even play a lot of what the amp was designed for, but it's so good sounding, I can't let go of it.


Yeah, I wish I could afford an Ecstasy.
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:33 AM   #10
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I want an Uberschall.

I want one more than a 6505 or a Dual Recto.

They should make a combo Uberschall.
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:43 AM   #11
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I want an Uberschall.

I want one more than a 6505 or a Dual Recto.

They should make a combo Uberschall.


Unfortunately an Uberschall combo would cost more than either of those.
Unless...
They make a lower wattage Uberschall! Do it, Reinhold.
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:47 AM   #12
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How many watts is a Uberschall?

Cos isnt the 6505 combo less watts than the 6505 head?
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Old 03-29-2009, 10:13 AM   #13
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How many watts is a Uberschall?

Cos isnt the 6505 combo less watts than the 6505 head?


The Uberschall is 100W, I think.

And yes, the Peavey 6505 combo is 60W vs. the 120W head.
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A 50W Uberschall would be awesome...combo mmm

It would actually be the best amp ever.
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Old 03-29-2009, 10:17 AM   #15
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A 50W Uberschall would be awesome...combo mmm

It would actually be the best amp ever.


It wouldn't be cheap, though.

Just like I thought that the Diezel Schmidt, a 15 watt class A head, would be cheap.
It was really $4000.
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Old 03-29-2009, 11:29 AM   #16
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I'm really wanting an Uberschall, but i don't really see that happening any time in the near future, so it's going to be a Alchemist for me
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Yeah, I wish I could afford an Ecstasy.

well, I wouldn't buy new, these amps are built like tanks. I've seen the wheat cloth ones as low as $1800 used in the last few months.
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well, I wouldn't buy new, these amps are built like tanks. I've seen the wheat cloth ones as low as $1800 used in the last few months.


Interesting. Then wouldn't the Uberschall be able to go for less than that?
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Old 03-30-2009, 09:56 PM   #20
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spent about an hour on a alchemist today and i was very impressed. nice tone at beroom levels a ton of tonal options very nice rig. hope to have one parked here in the next week or two. a/b it side by side with a mesa 5:50 both nice amps tough decision.
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